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June 16, 2006

Do As We Demand Or The Bitch Dies! Part II

These are more comments from fathers' rights activists about Darren Mack stabbing his wife to death and shooting the judge who heard his case. Mack is a member of a fathers' rights group. These comments are from the men's and fathers' rights forum Stand Your Ground. The guys at the Alliance for Non-Custodial Parents Rights and at Stand Your Ground blame "the system", feminists, and ex-wives for what Mack had done. As I said in my previous post, the message is clear: give fathers' rights activists what they demand (presumptive joint custody and low or no child support orders), or more women and children will die and more judges will be shot.

If some people still think that fathers' rights activists only want to spend more time with their children after reading this swill, they to have their heads examined.

JoeFin
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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 12:47 pm
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$10 the wife hired a hitman
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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 3:52 pm
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Quote:How do they KNOW it was a MAN? Because the attacker HIT the intended target. JK.

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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 3:59 pm
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JoeFin wrote:$10 the wife hired a hitman If she only gave him a tenner there must have been something else on The menu.
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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 4:11 pm
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This from an email from William Wagener: http://www.onsecondthought.tv/index2a.html

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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 10:47 pm
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... where he claimed Judge Chuck Weller was ordering him to pay twice ormore money than he earned, and he is apparently already in bankruptcy court. Sounds like it may be an "imputed income" kind of thing. It's just unbelievable that family court has gotten so draconian against men. I don't know about this guy's case, but there ARE men out there who have the stress of doing everything they can to earn money, but are still faced with jail because they can't earn enough, due to an order based on "imputed income". In the cases where an ex-wife's boyfriend is paying for her anyway, and the ex-husband is living hand-to-mouth and constantly facing jail time, it's almost inhumane.

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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 1:14 am
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Quote:but still lives after 4 shots Was it one bullet or four? If the latter it must have been a fast automaticof some sort to break the window and be followed by three more before he hitthe floor.
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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 1:30 am
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A system where all public officials, particularly justice system officials,are "elected" is just begging to be corrupted. Too much depends on how much money the various candidates can "raise". Anyone who thinks that all the donors are doing it "out of the goodness of their hearts" and without any expectations is living in a fantasy world.
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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 4:16 am
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Quote:"Judge shot in courthouse"
What part of the anatomy is the "courthouse?" I know where the "caboose" is.
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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 4:20 am

Post subject: Quote:"...and a woman on his staff hit by shrapnel"

Uh, was that an exploding shell or a bullet? Wasn't she just hit by flying glass? Okay, I know, it's only the mainstream media. I shouldn't expect accuracy from such simple minds.
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Fidelbogen
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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 5:46 am
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Okay, let's get this straight. If a happily married couple sticks together, but falls upon hard financial times and is barely able to scrape by from check to check, but manages to keep the young 'uns just barely cared for.....no judge, no court system, is gonna come down on their necks with demands for payment, "imputed income", threats of jail, suspended driver's licenses, and the like...... But if the couple splits up, then....it's "different". Heaven help the NCP!! Where is the logic here? Where is the consistency? Where is the rationale? Where the hell is the friggin' justice? It escapes me....
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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 6:01 am
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Galt wrote: Sounds like it may be an "imputed income" kind of thing. I do not understand how American judges got such powers to make arbitrary, even illegal, decisions and "court orders". This good lady has a lot to say about the American legal system: [Trish's note - the links are to Phyllis Schafly's Eagle Forum articles.]

The Supremacists: The Tyranny Of Judges And How To Stop It by Phyllis Schlafly (Hardcover - Jul 2004)
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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:02 pm
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I applaud these kinds of actions. Men and Fathers are at war with their respective governments. If the "enemy" is to sit up and take notice, there must be casualties. Very few of the enemy have suffered casualties; most deaths on our side have been in their jails, or through suicide from those that have surrendered. Those that experience collatoral damage end up homeless and/or in Rescue Missions. I've thought of the violence angle; violent fathers and such and I don't believe that applies in judge shootings. These incidents make it more expensive for these black robed thugs to operate their fiefdoms. Now they have to buy bullet proof glass. Darren Mack, if you are the shooter, I salute you. Any law enforcement officials reading this; while I support these actions against black robed thugs and jack-booted cops, I don't encourage any father/husband to waste their own life in this fashion. I would be proud if you were to add my name to any "Patriot" database maintained by your department.
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Gungerassa
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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 2:08 pm
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Fidelbogen wrote:Okay, let's get this straight. If a happily married couple sticks together, but falls upon hard financial times and is barely able to scrape by from check to check, but manages to keep the young 'uns just barely cared for.....no judge, no court system, is gonna come down on their necks with demands for payment, "imputed income", threats of jail, suspended driver's licenses, and the like...... But if the couple splits up, then....it's "different". Heaven help the NCP!! Where is the logic here? Where is the consistency? Where is the rationale? Where the hell is the friggin' justice?

It escapes me.... I know....It makes no sense. And why aren't WOMEN held financially responsible? Instead, they get welfare. Where is the "Justice for all"??? Even criminals from Mexico (affectionately referred to as illegal aliens) can pop out babies and our tax money supports them.....Our goverment doesn't go looking for those fathers.
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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 7:02 pm
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Watching one of the many talking head "news" shows, someone actually brought up the idea that this could be a case of a man pushed to the brink of desperation and beyond by the family court system and was left thinking he had nothing more to lose in taking this action since he had lost everything in the divorce court.
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Fidelbogen
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Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 12:28 am
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Repeating my favorite mantra here: "...Feminism made this happen. Feminism made this happen. Feminism made this happen. Feminism made this happen. Feminism made....." But repeating the mantra isn't enough. In all such cases, one must ascertain exactly HOW feminism made X happen, so that it can be made known to the rest of the world at the same time that you are chanting the mantra. As it is written:"By their fruits ye shall know them." We must be able to identify the Fruits of Feminism, and say exactly WHY they are the Fruits of Feminism, and...establish the linkage in the public mind -- clearly and distinctly. And not just the DNA continuity of the ideological fabric, but the actual causitive nexus -- the actual agents and operators. For example, the situation we are discussing here (apparently) grows straight out of the Bradley Amendment of 1986, which was a direct outcome of efforts made by people clearly identifiable as feminist ....wasn't it? Thus, the Bradley Amendment, and the Reno courthouse situation, are both clearly identifiable as the Fruits of Feminism....aren't they? I think that we must train ourselves to think this way.
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Finally, a note from ANCPR:


"Extreme prejudice against the spouse or parent who earns the most income may well be the common factor in this shooting in Reno Today. We talked to members of the same Fathers Rights group of Reno, which Darren Mack belonged to, and they all agreed, that this kind of violence would NOT happen, if… IF…

1. Judges gave Both parents equal time with their children,

2. No involuntary child support was ordered, because each
parent would “support” the child when they had the child."

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The message is loud and clear: give us presumptive joint custody and no child support order, or more women and children will die, and more judges will be shot.

Posted on June 16, 2006 at 04:37 PM | Permalink

Comments

Wow, it's like a roll call of the assholes over at SYG.

Posted by: ginmar at Jun 17, 2006 9:27:19 AM

Oh, yeah, and you gotta love how they're trying to portray this wife murderer as a poor SOB in bankruptcy court. In fact, he was worth millions, and he didn't want to pay any to his ex, so he was trying to hide it. Asshole.

Posted by: ginmar at Jun 17, 2006 9:28:47 AM

Mack is the classic deadbeat husband and dad, only more upscale than most.

It's unbelievable that ANYBODY could possibly defend his (alleged) actions.

Posted by: Susan Nunes at Jun 17, 2006 9:55:40 AM