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June 16, 2006

Do As We Demand Or The Bitch Dies! Part I

Some of you may have heard the story about a fathers' rights advocate Darren Mack, who had stabbed his wife to death and shot the judge who heard his case. The judge lived. This guy is now at large. Well, fathers' rights groups got wind of the story, and they are excusing this guy's behavior. They blame "the system" for what this guy has done.

This is nothing new for these guys. They already blame "the system", feminists, and ex-wives when dads commit suicide. What they usually keep quiet is that they also blame "the system" et al when dads murder their wives and children. Lowell Jaks of The Alliance for Non-Custodial Parent's Rights had gone as far as to blame "the system" for the D. C. sniper shootings. In the article Divorced Dads Snap Under Pressure, which is available at ANCPR's web site, Jaks said that "[s]ome guys kill themselves, some snap and go out and kill others. You can dismiss them as crackpots, you can say we need more protection for women, but it's not going to take away the problem." In another article, available at the web site for the fathers' rights group "A Kid's Right", Jaks said ""None of these guys are poster children. But when you cause this much pain to so many men, there are going to be repercussions. A certain percentage are going to crack."

The message is loud and clear: give fathers' rights activists what they demand (presumptive joint custody and low or no child support orders), or more women and children will die and more judges will be shot.

Below are comments from the blog for The Alliance For Non-Custodial Parent's Rights. Txfeminist has already posted these comments. ANCPR's main mission is to help men avoid their child support obligations. Take special notice of how many of the complaints below are about child support. ANCPR founder Lowell Jaks was jailed two years ago for kidnapping his son. You may read all about Jaks and ANCPR at this link on my blog.

You may recognize one of the ANCPR commenters. He has posted in my comments here before, but I was aware that he was also posting at ANCPR. A day ago, he had anonymously spammed my comments section with long-winded nonsense about Valerie Solanas and the SCUM Manifesto. What he didn't know what that I able to search the IP address of "anonymous". I figured out very quickly who "anonymous" was. That person is now banned from commenting here.

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OldmanQ said,
on June 12th, 2006 at 10:43 pm

“It’s just terrifying. It’s very scary. It’s speculation, but I would say it was the work of a disgruntled person,” said Reno Justice of the Peace Harold Albright, a friend of Weller’s.Ya think? Man, these people are geniuses!

“Family court judges take people’s children away and take property away. Those are such basic decisions that are very emotional.”Um, Exlax, not people’s. FATHER’s.
Too bad this doesn’t happen more often.

Ron Rutgers said,
on June 13th, 2006 at 5:59 am

This scumbag posing as a Judge apparently wasn’t well liked. Read what people have to say about him on this blog:

http://www.legalreader.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-discuss.cgi?entry_id=1590
Just another Butt Monkey to do the bidding of the lawyers that anointed him.

JSnow said,
on June 13th, 2006 at 11:05 am

Mr. Weller received summary judgement.

It is a shame that the vast majority of Americans fail to comprehend the absolute corruption that permeates our legal system. Pay to play is the norm and not the exception in this country. That is why bribery cases are so few and far between now. You have to be an absolute moron or a desparate addict to be caught.

The fact that judges have immunity from prosecution is criminal and a complete farce.
These scumbag judges act under the color of law knowingly violating the Constitutional rights of the litigants. Only when someone becomes completely despondent that they take the law into their own hands and serve justice on their tormenters.

Where are the dirty police who knew that this judge was openly corrupt? Why didn’t they turn him in? Who would they turn him into? Crooked Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez?

DWiley said,
on June 13th, 2006 at 12:40 pm

I feel for the non-custodial parent. He should have never been pushed, that far. You know I started Paralegal school in October 2005 because, my boyfriend had been in and out of the courts so much; I wanted to gain knowledge for myself and plus law is something I believed in. This last hearing his ex wife filed a motion to enforce on child support right before his daughters 18th birthday. The first hearing the judge said “This case would make a good question on the bar examine. The arrears were really screwed up nobody not even the OAG knew the right amount he owed. His child support was suppose to be decreased after he started paying on a second child. It never did. She had him in and out of court from 91 to 96 plus, kept him from seeing his daughter for 10 years because of false accusations. In the mean time I was drugged through this because, I own a small business and he and her attorney were accusing me of hiding money for him. Even though, I am not married to him, I had to appear for a deposition relating to my so called business, which allowed her attorney to go on a fishing expedition even though, the judge said other wise. I lost my job, his ex wife and husband came to my house and took pictures of my tangible items(which isn’t much) and Brian caught her husband standing below our deck trying to take pictures of the inside of my house. When he seen Brian he ran. However, the last hearing before the final hearing his mom, dad, and I had to appear also because, we were subpeonaed. Before, we went to lunch we seen her attorney hugging the judges wife and thought that was kind of strange. When we came back from lunch right before I was suppose to testify the judge threw out anything from 2000 until now because, they was no proof of the amount Brian was suppose to pay. I had to go through all of that just for the judge, to tell her attorney I was irrelevant and he was not going to let him ask me questions. The judge, should of signed the protective order and the papers to Quash the subpeona. Well I was allowed back in the court room just in time to hear the judges ruling. Guess what? The judge ruled on what her attorney wanted Brian to pay. 200.00 more in child support which makes that 503.00 a month plus his other 2 kids and 150.00 a month for her attorney fees of 11,500.00. hmm you would think the judge and the attorney had lunch together that day. After all this comes out of his check he might have 100.00 left for the month. On top of that at the first hearing the judge waived 16,000.00 in arrears and both sides agreed and at the last hearing he reentered it back in 6 months later. Now how does a judge get away with that? When Brians attorney told the judge last week at the final hearing that Brian could not afford that much a month the judge said we could modify the order (that has wrong dates of arrears listed the judge signed), since he has paid what he ordered he wasn’t going to change it. So, if he didn’t pay it he would have been thrown in jail and if he pays it the judge will not reduce it. That is one-sided if you ask me. I hope somebody hears our cries for help we have less than 3 weeks to file an appeal and can not afford any more attorney fees. I think the state bar of every state needs to go in and watch these attorneys and judges break the law and clean house. The bar should go under cover. I once believed in the law until greed took it over. All attorneys do anymore is worry when they are going to get paid. We paid our attorney just to stand there and look stupid. I seen the greed in him to. Whatever happened to standing up for what we believe in and our Constitution?

Jim Deeny said,
on June 13th, 2006 at 1:49 pm

There’s only one wat to stop this nonsense! Stop paying!

mikevac said,
on June 13th, 2006 at 4:56 pm

The harder the courts pushes people the harder they will push back. This bastard judge lived - this time. Next time he will not be that lucky. And there will be a next time because he is a bigot. Eventually, he’ll push another person to the brink and they will kill him. Unfortunately, this is the only way a victim of this the family court can get justice - by killing the judge.

anothervoice said,
on June 13th, 2006 at 5:31 pm

This judge all like him get absolutely no sympathy from me. Here’s a solution: Have judges in family court (now there’s a contradiction in terms) only limited to five year terms and and for every complaint against them such as violating someone’s due process because it helps the custodial parent then they aren’t allowed to work for a year; hey, better yet, sned the jackass/bitch to jail for three months for each and every violation accrued to be run consequetively. Then maybe they won’t be so eagar to assholes.

buddyhyatt said,
on June 13th, 2006 at 7:00 pm

I do not condone this type of retaliation. However “you reap what you sow” and evidently this judge had it coming. I am in this very situation in Tennessee. I am paying $1005 per month to the child’s mother whom I was not married to, while she does not work but fishes and hunts 10 to 18 days per month. (Yes she’s a lesbian now.) All the while I have the child more than half the time??? I am being rail roaded as we speak. I will fight it tooth and nail until it is settled fairly. I will not however shoot the judge. God’s vengeance will be much worse than anything I could do.

WarriorPoet said,
on June 13th, 2006 at 11:46 pm

I am a bit perplexed by so many peoples ‘absolution’ of this guy shooting this man. He may or may not have been a good judge but in no way is assassinating him justifiable. More sadly is the media response to this. As always they ignore the cause and source for real examination and promote a ‘men are all violent to kids and mothers too’ rally cry from the opposition. Unfortunately ‘hate’ and ‘justifiable’ commentary above may help relieve the poster of frustration with the system but are closely followed and reported on by the opposition. These type of postings are every bit has dangerous to any goals of shared parenting as they provide other misguided forces with ‘proof’ of their ‘claims’. As if all NCP’s feel as a few extremely abused do. Others, just as abused, choose to focus on the facts and rational not the rhetoric, propoganda or hysteria.

I personally hope this judge recovers and if indeed he was (if he was) corrupt under the color of law he would feel it as a personal goal to look more fairly in the REAL’best interest’ of the child or children and families involved.

Just my two cents for what is worth.

Jim Deeny said,
on June 14th, 2006 at 3:22 am

Of course it’s not justifiable. I don’t think it’s absolution WarriorPoet, but rather it’s “I told you do” Or “it’s been in the making”. People have been telling people that this type of thing is going to happen. Men have snapped over the system and have lossed everything and have gone to extreme ways of veangance.

Randy said,
on June 14th, 2006 at 5:03 am

Judges and attorneys should take note and watch their back…This is only the beginning…It takes this kind of extreme to deal with another extreme…And for those dirty judges and cock roach vampire attorneys who look upon men/fathers as only a paycheck, not people with “rights” hahaha/just mention rights and the law in a court and see how fast you are told to pay more…

You assholes (and you KNOW who you are) that make up the law as you see fit, this could just be your future coming to a place near you soon…very soon… and more often….

The News when someone gets shot…This seems like the only way people who are fair and do the right thing and follow the law can learn about what’s behind the cause for such to happen…Maybe this can shine the light on/or rid this corrupt system of those “dealings” that go on behind closed doors…At the expense of children…Never do you see such in a divorce that doesn’t involve children or money that a woman usually wants…BUT! Only if the “news” reports “all the facts” in these cases on TV…Lets get the deep down dirt on the news…Those who might cause any person to snap when pushed to the wall…What’s there to live for is probably this gunmans thoughts and attempted to take one out, and apparently took out the wife/ those he must feel went to far, so as in Reno, he took it to the limit…

I haven’t forgotten the main people who took my son from my life to live with the Mother 6 years ago…3000 miles away across an ocean with only hearsay “as a need” for a better quality of life…(so you can’t drive there, but need to fly two different airplanes each way, rent a car, pay for lodging and expenses…)This is what is best for the child by removing a father from a child with a signature???

God will deal with those which have ruined a wonderful relationship I had and killed it…

It looks like it’s open season on judges and attorneys and/or anyone else who takes children from two fit parents and gives only to one parent “solely”, which then is turned into a sick support me/get back game, (usually the woman)…who then becomes cruel, only wants revenge and all the money and pain that can be created by keeping a child alienated…All turned loose on one individual…The Father…I can feel it and see it on the news almost weekly, there’s a war that’s brewing for the family court system and those who support the taking of children money and property from one parent, and giving all to the other parent…

Remember the Black Panthers Stand…It may happen sooner than later somewhere else by another (usually the father) when people are not delt with 50/50 and due process…I do not personally believe that violence is any answer…The family law corrupt system will turn out and cause more violence than it is supposed to stop…Strangers with too much power deciding to breakup children from a loving other parent?Then ask for money from you?Sounds worse than any Mafia. Hell, just try judges and attorneys to take away anything from a real mafia type…You all would pee down your leg…

You all are going to get yours in time…

Jim Deeny said,
on June 14th, 2006 at 6:05 am

The real glitch is that justices will hand out even more PFA’s like candy now. Soon to be ex husbands will be considered armed and dangerous. Incidents like this can and might have an adverse affect on allot of us men out here.

Ron Rutgers said,
on June 14th, 2006 at 8:03 am

Why do you think a restraining order, is the first order of business in a divorce nowadays? Once issued, they confiscate your weapons. They can’t have your 2nd amendment rights in play, when they proceed to violate the rest of your rights.

Lawyers have become gangs of marauders, and judges, are their warlords. They expect you to be a dutiful slave or to end your own life. Considering the futility of fighting them within a system that they control, there are few options.

The right to bear arms is a safeguard to prevent tyranny, so this event shouldn’t surprise anyone who’s be a victim of the system.

Ron Rutgers said,

“Why do you think a restraining order, is the first order of business in a divorce nowadays?

They know that men will be pushed over the top with the biased family courts, and will do exactly this guy did when he lost everything. It’s all planned out from the beginning to the 14th ammendment, which is not being jailed for a debt.

Kevin Merck said,
on June 14th, 2006 at 4:45 pm

Unilateral acts of revenge like this are not the answer. However, that is not to say that violence will not be necessary to bring about change. It must be a unified front of millions, not the desperate act of vengeance on the part of a few individuals. Violence is sometimes a necessary evil when you are dealing with tyrants. This country was born through violent revolution. It shouldn’t be that hard for people to understand that violence is sometimes justified and necessary.

I hear a lot of “brave talk” by people who don’t have the courage or self-respect to use their real names while posting. I think people who don’t have the courage to put their “John Hancock” on what they have to say would do everyone a favor by keeping it to themselves.

Kevin Merck

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mikevac said,
on June 13th, 2006 at 10:11 am
Sounds like the chickens are coming home to roost. How many times is this going to happen before the legislatures realize that they have unleashed abominations known as family courts upon the land? How many more people will be injured or die because the state stuck it’s nose into something it does belong and is violating the rights of a class of Americans, who, if pushed to the point of nothing left to loose, will strike back?

DigitalSam said,
on June 13th, 2006 at 11:23 am

As a non-custodial Father of two in Nevada, I can say this incident in Reno comes as no great suprise. According to the local paper, The Reno Gazette-Journal, Mr. Mack was under court order to pay $849.00 per month in chil support for ONE child. He was also ordered to pay $10,000.00 (that’s right, ten THOUSAND) per month in alimony.

Judge Weller was a “family law” attorney before being elected to the bench. He has ALWAYS been partial to mothers. He hosted a local talk radio show in Reno for several years and his bias was very plain to see. He definately has never been in favor of joint parenting when the child would have equal time with each parent. He also was against stonger laws enforcing visitation orders, when the custodial parent would suffer some penalty for withholding visitation from the other parent. But he did favor more and harsher laws regarding child support.

As mentioned above, these so-call “family law” lawyers gave plenty of money to Judge Weller (and all the other “family law” judges running for the bench) when he ran for office in 2004. In Nevada, this is common. The judges and lawyers in this state lie in the same bed and drink from the same cup. Judges willingly draw out these family cases as long as possible so that their buddies, the attorneys, can collect more and more fee money from their clients.

I wish Judge Weller well. I hope he recovers from this and then resigns from the bench. We in Nevada could do with far fewer judges of Mr. Weller’s temperament.

betsy662 said,
on June 13th, 2006 at 12:48 pm

How many of these judges are going to die because the law is out of sinc with reality? the legislatures of all states, and especially those in Washington DC need to take stock in these rediculous laws they have enacted, called “tough child support laws”, in order to get those “DEADBEAT” dads, imposing a child support order that is far greater than the income of the NCP, and then imposing so called “SPOUSEL” support so high that even famous idiots in Hollywood can’t even afford it, it doesn’t surprise me that these things are happening.

Unfortunately, Judge Weller will probably survive and go back to business as usual, the legislature will probably decide to pass laws making the killing of idiot judges some sort of “HATE CRIME”, and there will probably be more of this type of nonsense that will happen, and things will get progressively worse until we get legislators with a little common sense…..

Kevin Merck said,
on June 13th, 2006 at 5:08 pm

It’s too bad for this “judge” and for the person who will pay with the rest of his life behind bars because there was no other avenue for redress of his well founded grievances. This judge is a criminal in a system laden with criminals; we shouldn’t just start shooting them all, at least not until we have exhausted every other alternative.

I don’t think any of us wants to see violence, I know I don’t, but sometimes it doesn’t matter what we want. This is only the tip of an iceberg floating in a sea laden with icebergs. There will undoubtedly be much more bloodshed than any of us wants to see unless there is change.

We are “all responsible” in one way or another for this tragedy, but the people who continue to pay the extortion, and the criminals who demand its payment, bear the “lion’s share” of the responsibility. Children need to be reunited with their fathers, men need to enjoy the "equal protection" of our laws, and the payment of this so-called “child support” must come to an end.

Do the right thing; refuse to cooperate with this “domestic enemy”, stop paying the unlawful extortion. Millions of future Americans will be glad you did; countless lives will be saved and untold pain and suffering will be avoided.

I don’t think it’s ever been said any better:

"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
John F Kennedy

And as for refusing to pay the extortion:

"A man does what he must - in spite of personal consequences, in spite of obstacles and dangers and pressures - and that is the basis of all human morality."
John F Kennedy

dappleton said,
on June 13th, 2006 at 9:43 pm

A society that wants us to be "politically correct" REALLY wants us to be NON-MEN!

So here it is [NO PC]

Many deaths are to come if we don’t have a serious dialog [and serious action] about sexual discrimination against men.

We shouldn't be so backed into the corner that violence seems the only option…

But here we are backed into the corner….

rjj said,
on June 13th, 2006 at 10:44 pm

It appears that violence is the only thing that hits home with these corrupt judges. Violence is not usually a good avenue to facilitate change but it appears it may be the only way to change this. I was ordered to pay child support in excess of my income by the corrupt State of Colorado. I was not allowed to see my child and stopped paying because I had no way to pay the exhorbitant amount of extortion.

Violence may be the only solution! Nothing else seems to work!

keldush said,
on June 14th, 2006 at 6:09 am

Run Run Run Darren Run.

Jim Deeny said,
on June 14th, 2006 at 8:49 am

Kevin Merck said,
on June 13th, 2006 at 5:08 pm

"It’s too bad for this “judge” and for the person who will pay with the rest of his life behind bars because there was no other avenue for redress of his well founded grievances."

Vengeance is the cowardice way out of grieving.


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· mikevac said, on June 13th, 2006 at 4:56 pm

The harder the courts pushes people the harder they will push back. This bastard judge lived - this time. Next time he will not be that lucky. And there will be a next time because he is a bigot. Eventually, he’ll push another person to the brink and they will kill him. Unfortunately, this is the only way a victim of this the family court can get justice - by killing the judge.

Randy said, on June 14th, 2006 at 5:03 am

Judges and attorneys should take note and watch their back…This is only the beginning…It takes this kind of extreme to deal with another extreme…And for those dirty judges and cock roach vampire attorneys who look upon men/fathers as only a paycheck, not people with “rights” hahaha/just mention rights and the law in a court and see how fast you are told to pay more…

You assholes (and you KNOW who you are) that make up the law as you see fit, this could just be your future coming to a place near you soon…very soon… and more often….

The News when someone gets shot…This seems like the only way people who are fair and do the right thing and follow the law can learn about what’s behind the cause for such to happen…Maybe this can shine the light on/or rid this corrupt system of those “dealings” that go on behind closed doors…At the expense of children…Never do you see such in a divorce that doesn’t involve children or money that a woman usually wants…BUT! Only if the “news” reports “all the facts” in these cases on TV…Lets get the deep down dirt on the news…Those who might cause any person to snap when pushed to the wall…What’s there to live for is probably this gunmans thoughts and attempted to take one out, and apparently took out the wife/ those he must feel went to far, so as in Reno, he took it to the limit…

I haven’t forgotten the main people who took my son from my life to live with the Mother 6 years ago…3000 miles away across an ocean with only hearsay “as a need” for a better quality of life…

It looks like it’s open season on judges and attorneys and/or anyone else who takes children from two fit parents and gives only to one parent “solely”, which then is turned into a sick support me/get back game, (usually the woman)…who then becomes cruel, only wants revenge and all the money and pain that can be created by keeping a child alienated…All turned loose on one individual…The Father…I can feel it and see it on the news almost weekly, there’s a war that’s brewing for the family court system and those who support the taking of children money and property from one parent, and giving all to the other parent…

Remember the Black Panthers Stand…It may happen sooner than later somewhere else by another (usually the father) when people are not delt with 50/50 and due process…I do not personally believe that violence is any answer…The family law corrupt system will turn out and cause more violence than it is supposed to stop…Strangers with too much power deciding to breakup children from a loving other parent?Then ask for money from you?Sounds worse than any Mafia. Hell, just try judges and attorneys to take away anything from a real mafia type…You all would pee down your leg…

You all are going to get yours in time…


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Comments

I'd love to be a fly on the wall in a few years, when Darren Mack tried t to explain this to his daughter. I'm offering odds of 50-1 that that girl never gets married.

Posted by: AnnieCat at Jun 19, 2006 6:14:22 PM

Wow. Well those guys are nice and deluded. It's awesome that they are going to kill us all if we don't fulfill their demands. It's good to know that if I get pregnant and the guy leaves me, he may kill me for wanting him to help support his child and goddess forbid that I should deny him rights to see the child after he has made that threat! Why then I would be an over-reacting bitch. Damn me and my refusal to put my child in close contact with someone who has threatened to kill me.

Somebody please slap them with some sense?
-K

Posted by: Kitie at Jun 20, 2006 1:25:27 PM