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March 11, 2007
Gee, A Lurker Who Thinks I Deserve To Be Raped
I haven't written any fathers' rights posts in ages, and this really isn't one. I was checking out my sitemeter, and found a link to a men's rights site and discussion forum I had never heard of. One of the guys who posts there says he lurks on my blog. He can't help himself. I just get under his skin. I think he's mad especially over a post I made last July - eight long months ago about a New York case where a man who whined about "paternity fraud" was not able to get out of paying child support.
I make him so mad that he had this to say about me: "I hope she dies and then her body is dug up from the graveyard the day after her burial by a necrophiliac and raped. After all, she clearly has NO sympathy for rape victims unless they are women."
That is truly sick.
This guy has some serious problems. I know now that another angry nutcase lurks on my blog. If he tries to comment here, I will delete him and ban him. I saved that forum thread for posterity.
I don't even blog about father's rights and family law anymore. Yet still, the trolls manage to get all bent out of shape over me anyway. Go figure.
Posted on March 11, 2007 at 11:47 AM | Permalink
Comments
OMG. What an asshole that 'male' is -- certainly not a man, just a being with a penis.
Posted by: Gracie Passette at Mar 11, 2007 5:15:10 PM
I've seen worse, Gracie. There are entire web pages devoted to bashing me because of my family law activism. I don't even do much of that anymore, and they still come at me.
Posted by: The Countess at Mar 12, 2007 12:05:52 PM
Gee, makes ya want to start again, huh? @@
Posted by: Moi ;) at Mar 15, 2007 9:38:23 PM
That posters comments are clearly out of line. However, they are representative of a level of anger felt by many men that I think many women simply don't understand - either due to an inability to empathize with the mens position or due to outright apathy toward it. From a mens point of view, family law is unfairly biased against men. I'm sure that from a womens point of view you feel that it's not. Let's not argue about it - we both know how pointless that is I'm sure. Rather, let's both acknowledge that men and women have different views on this issue. Such an acknowledgment allows one to gain perspective on this problem. I think such perspective is something the poster you are talking about is clearly lacking and that is dangerous. It's dangerous in that his lack of perspective has made him very angry and his anger has led him to act in ways that are clearly not in his best interest.
Men need to understand that women simply don't see things from a mens point of view, and won't see things that way no matter how they're approached. Why should women see things from a mens point of view? I can't think of any reason why they should. Men should stop expecting women to do so. This makes sense when you think about it, even just a little. When you stop and really *think* about the issue rather than react with out of control emotions as this unfortunate man has you can see things much more clearly. Women simply believe that it would be disadvantageous to them for family law to be changed in the manner that men would like. There is no reason to expect women to ever support such changes.
It's pointless to argue back and forth about 'fairness', 'right and wrong', etc. because men and women have fundamentally different views about what is 'fair' or what is 'right' on this subject. Anyone who has been exposed to this debate before should see that fact clearly. Therefore, it makes sense for men to stop trying to persuade women to support changes to the law that women feel would be to their disadvantage. No rational woman would support such a change. Thus, reasonable men should stop engaging women on such issues - except at the election polls and other significant political arenas.
Reasonable men should organize among themselves to bring mens perspectives on these issues before our courts, legislators, law enforcement, and other officials. We don't need any help from women to get our views represented or our grievances redressed. Men should work with other men to address mens concerns - not with women. It simply isn't reasonable to include women as a major part of the process because they feel that they have nothing to gain from it and also because they simply don't care about mens needs on this issue. Mens issues are just that - *Mens* issues. They must be solved by men for the benefit of men. No one else is going to solve these problems for us and the sooner we realize that and get on with the business of working for real change - instead of just arguing - the better off we'll be.
I would like to ask all of the men out there to leave these women alone. Arguing with them is pointless, even foolish. Making childish comments or threats is counter productive and thus even worse than arguing. The positions women hold on family law make perfect sense from a womens point of view. It is only natural for women to want the law to cater to their needs and interests - even if it does so at the expense of men. They are being perfectly rational by rejecting mens petitions that the laws be changed. Women care about womens perspectives, not mens. Women care about womens rights, not mens. Women care about womens interests, not mens. Guys - women don't care about your beliefs on this subject, get over it.
In a coldly rational way it makes perfect sense for women to be indifferent to the needs of men with respect to family law. Men should be equally rational in the pursuit of their interests. It makes no sense to argue with women on Internet forums in an attempt to persuade them to change their views in a way that they feel would be to their disadvantage. It makes much more sense to channel all of that wasted energy into real world activism to make real world changes that will give us real world solutions to these issues. Then we won't have any reason to argue with women on the Internet about such problems because they will have been solved.
Click on my name below to be taken to a list of links for Mens Rights activist organizations. [The Countess's note: I removed the link.] If you feel passionately about Mens Rights your time will be much better spent at these sites than it will be spent arguing with women on their blogs.
Posted by: hermes at Apr 1, 2007 4:36:12 PM
I removed the link to men's rights organizations from Hermes' comment. I won't allow men's rights and father's rights groups to advertise themselves on my blog. I have not done any family law work in a very long time, and I have no intention of starting it up again. My views of the men's and father's rights movement are already well known. I don't feel a need to respond to Hermes' comment.
I will say that if men's rights activists come here to spam and troll my blog, their comments will be deleted. If you guys want a soapbox, make your own blog.
Posted by: The Countess at Apr 2, 2007 9:22:04 AM
Actually, women should just not get married, and if they want kids simply find a random hookup. Problem solved! That's what I did, men are too control-freaky. Oh, no child support for me, btw, I have no idea who the dad is! lol
Posted by: Katie at Apr 9, 2007 3:22:13 AM
