More Ugly Comments From Legal Reader

My readers might recognize one of these comments. A poster from Legal Reader came to my blog, and posted what he claims are Mack's financial statements in my comments. I don't believe anyone who supports Darren Mack. It's likely that Mack is hiding assets.

Legal Reader has also learned that Mack has been captured. There was one reply to that comment, from a guy who still thinks Mack was justified in fighting "the system".

These people are horrendous.

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http://www.legalreader.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-discuss.cgi?entry_id=1590

DARREN MACK WAS RITE TO KILL THE BITCH I WISH HE KILLD THE JUDGE THE BITCH WERENT WORTH 10000 A MONTH SHE WERENT THAT GOOD A FUCK
Posted by Reno Dadster at June 21, 2006 03:51 PM

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ouch i know his chest is hurting...,but to be serious,when you order a wife or a man to pay 10,000 a month to their ex for alimony that is like rape, No one likes knowing there being screwed,bill gates is a billionair and 10.000 dollars is nothing to him,but i bet even he would not want to give a hundred dollars to some one he thinks does not deserve it.So i look at it like this.If a couple gets a divorce there is no way the lady or the man should get 10,000 a month.now the lady or man should not live like a bum,maybe 3,500 a month. i live in nyc and live off that and nyc is way more expensive than reno nevada.

What is this world coming to? Basically a lady can cheat on you with your best friend dump you and then get a monthly check if she wanted to, but anyway mr.mack was financially well off,but what peaple fail to realize is that there a guys making 25,000 a year and is forced to give half of it up because the lady was no longer happy,thats bull.Us guys we need to stand up.we are forced to pay some ridiculous alimony payments most of the times. to make my point google paul mccartneys divorce and see how much he had to pay his ex becouse she no longer loves him.Mr.weller if u read this i hope your chest gets better....hehehe

Posted by my chest hurts at June 21, 2006 03:54 PM

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a lady should not get a alimony check of 10,000 a month unless she has like 10 kids to take care of,if you want get paid like that go to college and be a doctor.I have to agree that is rape no matter what the situation. 5,000 the max for any case.
Posted by kim at June 21, 2006 03:57 PM

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Obviously those who compare a court judgement to rape, have never had to endure, or nurse someone back from the physical and emotonal trauma of rape victims. Darren Mack was not "raped", unless it happened at one of his swinging sessions. He was unable to cope with not having things go his way, but that is not rape.
Posted by Carol at June 21, 2006 04:20 PM

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id rather be raped once than go to family court 12 times in a year
Posted by not a brokeback at June 21, 2006 05:39 PM

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i do believe the word "rape" more describes the psycological and emotional violation than it does the actual physical event. it is possible that Mr.Mack was "raped" by the system. i too have felt mentally and morrally "raped" by the system.(sorry for the spelling, but hey who's perfect?)
Posted by justmy.02 at June 21, 2006 06:22 PM

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Main Entry: rape
Function: transitive verb
Inflected Form(s): raped; rap·ing
Etymology: Middle English, from Latin rapere
1 a archaic : to seize and take away by force b : DESPOIL
2 : to commit rape on
Posted by justmy.02 at June 21, 2006 06:28 PM

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Marriage is fucking STUPID!

haha the more I think about it the more these poor dudes are getting what they deserve (on some level).
I agree that being ordered by a judge to pay your EX-SPOUSE (THAT YOU DIVORCED BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIKE EACH OTHER ANY MORE) $10,000 PER MONTH is equivalent to ass rape. I wouldn't really know since I've never been ass-raped, but I imagine it would SUCK! Just like I imagine paying your enemy $10,000 a month would SUCK! I'm not sure which would be worse. I don't care how much the dude makes. If Donald Trump divorces you, that does not entitle you to JACK SHIT as far as I'm concerned. Unless you were directly involved in making that money, you shouldn't get shit. Now if you were involved, then you would surely have shares of stock or part ownership in the company you helped build.

Now, the reason I say these guys are getting a little of what they deserve is because they made the decision to get MARRIED. HELLO. Like I posted a few days ago (under "Darren's myspace account" I think), marriage is totally stupid...for men. I'm a man, and I see how bad you guys have it. The guys on here complaining...man I'm all on your side. I hope to God you don't get screwed over in court. If I were a woman, I would get fake tits, plastic surgery, fake tan, whatever it takes to get married to a rich guy, then I would cheat on him (with guys like me), and divorce him, claiming I was beaten, assaulted, and emotionally abused over the past 15 months (I wouldn't stay married much longer than that, just enough to make a strong case), but have grown accustomed to the lifestyle, and demand that I be given the Merceds Benz SL that he bought for me as a gift, that I get to keep the $100,000 of jewelry he's given me, that I get to keep the $1 million house, but need him to cover all the bills, and require at least $50,000 a month alimony (or more depending on how rich he is).

Goddamn marriage in America is the stupidest thing ever for men.

I'm sorry, but NO pussy is worth that much. Easpecially in Nevada!! lol Damn, you guys can go down to the legal brothels there, get all the sex you're willing to pay for with ZERO of the emotional baggage and drama, ZERO chance of the bitch stealing your money or accusing you of abuse, and you can be with a new, HOT, different girl EVERY time!

Really, I recommend just dating a lot of women, but if you're not good with women, or can't get hot ones, then yeah, use the brothels, and you'll be better off than getting married.

Marriage leads to demasculation for men. Basically they are paying for pussy too, but it's with the same old hag every time, and it costs MORE! How much would old Darren Mack have had to pay for pussy? Well, let's see, after marriage, you get sex, what once or twice a month? How many years were the married? I don't know but lets say 10. Let's round up and say they had sex 200 times while married. No, let's round up even more. Let's say 500 times, which ends up equally about once a week.

Now let's just compute the alimony and costs over the next ten years. We won't even consider the payments past that, or all the tens or hundreds of thousands he spent on her during marriage.

So $10,000/month for 10 years is 1 million two hundred thousand dollars! Plus she gets a million dollar house, plus all costs, which we'll say is another $1,000 a month. We won't add up the child support---that's the only thing the judge did that was close to right.

So when all is said and done, over the next ten years, Darren would have paid out WELL OVER TWO MILLION DOLLARS for having sex 500 times. And that doesn't even include the appreciation the house will probably have. That may be a $2 million dollar house in 10 years.

So $2,000,000 for 500 sex sessions equals $4000 for each time he had sex!! Dudes, do the math!! It ain't worth it. I guarantee you can find it cheaper than that, and with new different girls. He was paying that out for the same woman.

Now people are going to argue with me, saying "well, what about 'love'?" It's all love, and you can't buy love and happiness, and children. Okay, fine, live in your little dream world believing that.
But I'm here to tell you that you CAN be in love with a woman AND even have kids without EVER getting married to her, and handing over your balls and manhood. Married men have become the EMOTIONAL TAMPONS for their American wives. Welcome to the American dream boys. No wonder so many foreigners are able to come to the states and thrive...they have good women and they stay together, and both have vested interests in seeing their business work. For American-born men, most of their wives are total lazy dependants sucking the dudes dry.

That said, the rest of you guys have been warned. Get married and be willing to face the repercussions. Or just keep her as your girlfriend, verbally commit to her, and live happily ever after, without having to shell out MILLIONS of DOLLARS when she decides she's not happy, or when you decide you are ready for a new woman.
Posted by wannabe lawyer at June 21, 2006 06:39 PM

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amusing post. i think ive paid about 1000 for each experience(none of which i really remember). something you seem to be immune from(to your benefit) is the feminization of the american male. this government/media/hollywood/communist plot is irrelevent if you get a sweet devoted lady(which i have now) but you're in a world of crap if you get a bad one and then get to court. you're right that some guys are so stupid to marry someone with big issues(i got her pregnant,did THE RIGHT THING) and lost a ton of $ and sanity. i take responsibility for my stupidity and so should have darren mack. my only complaints about the courts have been regarding childhood safety, never money.

by the way, there are just as many sweet women that marry horrible men and get tortured mentally and physically. many of them get royally fucked in court because the judge has to figure out if abuse allegations are true or is this another phony claim to get back at the guy(as darren mack alleged). there need to be serious penalties for false accusations so thevreal ones get dealt with. the false accusers get a slap on the wrist.
Posted by oversight at June 21, 2006 07:05 PM

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Here is the real numbers as was given to me in documents by Darren himself. Don´t let the fancy BS done by the attorneys fool you in the court motions. Remember most if not all has been falsely documented. I saw the real financial and bank records myself.

The order said¨.

44,000 income
15,000 income taxes that no-one remembered that had to be taken out. Remember income taxes?
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29,000 left after taxes
10,000 spousal support as per Weller´s order
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19,000 left after spousal support
14,000 all those items that were listed on the order by Weller but not put into dollars. Just the 2 morgages were 9,000 a month. I have seen the bank records.
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5000 left after paying all the bills ordered to be paid by Weller.
849 child support for one child
1000 child support to the previous wife for another child.
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3151 left after child support
6000 in interest paymts and other expences that Weller did not address in his order but had to be paid. Can´t tell the bank Weller said I don´t have to pay.
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-2849 left after bills that must be paid that Weller did not address.
15000 a month for attys fees to fund a war that he tried to settle many times rather than go BK.
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-17,849 left after attys fees. Remember Darren has yet to spend $1 on rent, food, gas, car, support one child full time that lived with him and one child that lived with him half time.
6000 a month for all the above. Darren had a minus cashflow of

$-23,849 per month

based on Judge Weller´s order. Live with that for 2 years!! and see if you need to file BK. Get a grip people.

So here it is in simple form. Weller a man making $44,000 a month to pay $61,849 before he got $1 to live on himself and to take care of his children when they lived with him. You make your own conclusion of fairness.

Remember criminals like Charla´s atty Shawn Meador and bought and paid for Judges can make anything look reasonable in court docs. The real test is how does it play out when you have to write the check and balance the checkbook. Don´t be fooled by the surface level BS. I have seen the bank records.
Posted by mark at June 21, 2006 07:53 PM

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Oh, now I understand why he killed her and tried to take out a judge. Completely warranted.
Posted by October at June 21, 2006 08:16 PM

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Not warranted but enough to make you go insane.
Posted by expose at June 21, 2006 09:02 PM

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October and all who can't see past the murder-

Of course the murder is not warranted, nor in any way justified!

mark in no way implied that...

99%+ of us will agree with you on that.

The point is: many of the orders that get handed down in Family Court are not warranted either. This may likely be the root of the problem in the Mack case.

And, unless you have a printing press in your basement, given orders to pay out any amount of money that you do not have and each month WILL MAKE YOU CRAZY- and, as Reno witnessed last Monday, crazy to the point of becoming homicidal if the person making the orders is ignoring all the evidence you are presenting over and over, month after month. And going to court month after month is costing you even more of the money that you do not have in legal fees to defend yourself against the impossible orders.

We all know the murder and attempted murder are crimes. While that is a valid point, it is only one of the issues in this situation.

To keep another murder from taking place, the injustices taking place in Family Court need to be addressed. That is a bigger point now. No one can change the events of last Monday.

Good people don't normally just snap for no reason. Not that Darren Mack's reasons were all that good... but what may seem weak reasons to us may have been very real reasons to him.

Sometimes when a good person is made to feel irrelevent and like there is no other way out of a situation, they will snap and do the unthinkable, things they would normally see as being wrong.

I know our society only wants to see criminals for the horrible monsters they are made out to be; that makes them easier to understand and cast aside. Many times they are monsters; sometimes they are not. Sometimes they are almost as much of a victim as their own victims are.

It would do us good to stand back and realize they are someone's kid or someone's brother or sister; they may even be someone's parent. Many times someone has once loved or still does love them.

But we don't like to; it makes us uncomfortable to see these terrible monsters as actually being human.

We need to ask what went wrong. We need to understand the 'what went wrong' to keep it from going wrong again.

Think about your own income. Add $25,000 to it. Imagine you have to pay that to someone you perceive as being unworthy or just someone who will not let you get out of it. Then realize there is a court order that says you have to pay that money; if you don't, you are headed to jail. Up to this point, you have done nothing criminally wrong, yet you are being treated like a criminal and worse yet the only person who can change it for you is not listening. Then come to the realization that everything you have and have worked for everyday of your life is slowly being taken away from you. Each day you work hard, but somehow each day you have less. Eventually, you will have nothing. Worse still, less than nothing. Soon you will owe more than you had to start with. You won't live enough lifetimes to get out from under it...

That would not make you crazy?

It would do it for me.
Posted by C'mon people... at June 21, 2006 09:10 PM

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One of the best things I ever saw was a child rapist being transported/extridited through and airport terminal. The childs dad walks up and shoots the bastard dead. The dad gets off.

Would our court system have punished a demon like that, no!! 10 yrs max for an incurable problem destined to destroy more lives.

Not the same as with Mack but he was royally fucked by a bribed/or so they say/ judge. There needs to be appeals to a higher judge in cases where there has been a travesty of justice to avoid INSANITY BY UNJUST COURT RULING which is what I think got him thinking murder. Everyone has a breaking point, sooner or later we'll have an eminant domain killing like the Stephen King short story, is this the first divorce judge shot by a guy who felt hed lost everything? Who speaks for people ruined by the legal system. Will Mack be put into history as a pathologic murderer and no one cares why he did it or is he a tragic victim who lost all self control because he saw no other to make things just. Will anyone hold bad judges accountable for errors or outright crimes before we have another man driven to destroy lives because he felt his own wasnt worth living.
Posted by amen to that c'mon at June 21, 2006 09:45 PM

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mark , pretty heavy figures. the average person might not understand how the judge could not do the math. did he believe the abuse charges? was he upset about the different financial records that darren presented? was he appalled by the swinger lifestyle? did he owe that lawyer more favors? how much did the lawyer contribute to his election? what were the judges words to darren when the monetary discrepancies were pointed out? the full story will come out. people dont feel sorry about 10K out of 44K as the media spins it but you have have made some valid points for your friend or acquaintance being despondent about the rulings if your figures are correct and you have your numbers down to the dollar. if you have any of the answers to my questions id love to know. one way or the other this guys story should be told, thanks for the details. also do you think the richard gammick posts are really from him. mr gammick is supposed to be an honorable man, lets hope this doesnt end with more violence.
Posted by oversight at June 21, 2006 10:47 PM

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Man, I'd be pissed too. Going from a very nice income to negative cash flow! F*ck that!

A guy spends his life building up a respectable business, generating a decent income that he can be proud of, buy a nice home with, live a nice life, and BOOM! A divorce takes it ALL away just like that...and the person taking it is his ex-wife, who (and I don't know this part of the story) most likely did NOTHING to build that business?? If she was a critical component of building that business to where it is, then she she should have a part ownership, and they could have it appraised, and he could buy out her portion, and call it good.

Seriously this makes me pissed when I see those numbers. If this judge really was crooked, and is too narrow-minded or prejudiced to look at the evidence in cases, then he needs to go. Yeah, violence is not the answer, but now that Weller's been shot, hopefully we're rid of him, and he won't be allowed back on the bench.

What are we doing voting for judges and having them run election campaigns anyways?? It just doesn't sound right. I know that's how it is, but maybe the system needs to be changed. ANY campaign contribution to a judge can be seen as bribery as far as I'm concerned.
Posted by wannabe lawyer at June 21, 2006 10:59 PM

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That is just one order. The first financial order that was posted is just one of 20 or more things that were Nazi like against Darren. By the way anyone who understands the law would know that he couldn't appeal until the entire case was finished including custody and the divorce decree issues. That is why those two things were stratigically put off by Shawn Meador into the future so as to keep Darren from any protection from another court. It is my understanding that he was in the middle of an emergency writ but those are very rarely issued.

They make up rules and they are the umpires so when they are crooked like in this case one has absolutely no chance at coming out without being robbed broke, put into BK, jailed, extorting the people around you, and then kidnapping your children. There is one place where one has no constitutional rights and that is in the 4 walls of the divorce court. It is just legalized organized crime.

It was not just with Darren but read fatherunite.org and you will see hundreds of stories of the crimes that divorce industry are inflicting on mostly men thoughtout this country. They are plain out crimes. Read them and weep for crimes being waged against mostly men in this country.
Posted by Mark at June 22, 2006 11:11 AM

MARK!Thanks for making the financial situation clear for those who just don't get it!
Posted by S. at June 22, 2006 11:48 AM

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Mark, your points are good ones, but it's going to be hell to convince the general public. Have you thought of sending a letter to the editor of the RGJ with this financial breakdown?
Posted by October at June 22, 2006 12:03 PM

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RGJ is not interested in the truth, anymore than any other news media. The divorce papers are public information, yet no one is referring to them before writing their news stories, which are filled with incorrect information.
Posted by S. at June 22, 2006 12:29 PM

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Mark you're right about the media not giving a crap. RGJ is severely feminized and spins things accordingly
Posted by expose at June 22, 2006 02:06 PM

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So much for trust. What Now? Call me.
Posted by Richard Gammick at June 22, 2006 02:08 PM

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That comment was posted by me, "a female" ! But I do agree the "system" is biased against men.
Posted by S. at June 22, 2006 02:09 PM

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Mr. Gammick is refering to Darren going back on his word to turn himself in to police, in Mexico.
Posted by S. at June 22, 2006 02:12 PM

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Any word, Mr.Gammick???
Posted by S. at June 22, 2006 02:57 PM

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Has it occured to anyone on this blog that Mr. Gammick is posting things to Mack via this blog for a reason? I bet one of these people who have been posting is acually Mr. Mack. If this is true, and Mr. Mack you are reading this - please listen to Mr. Gammick, he said he was a long time friend of yours, I will bet you can trust him. Also, could you give us a hint as to which posts were yours? Just curious. Please turn yourself in!I am sure your children are worried about their dad. Think of them and not yourself.
Posted by OMGOSH! at June 22, 2006 04:41 PM

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Man, if I was Darren and reading this, I would keep on going. He's got nothing but troubles ahead...like life in prison, possibly death penalty. I don't blame him for not turning himself in. He already got ass raped by Judge Weller, and you expect him to turn himself in to get ass raped again, for the next 30 years by big hairy dudes? I don't think so.

I would learn to speak spanish, buy a little villa in nicarauga or somewhere far away. Hell, I'd move to Vietnam or Thailand. I'd find some dude in Mexico to send mail to, and that guy could send it on to his kids in the states, to maintain his anonymity.
Posted by wannabe lawyer at June 22, 2006 07:10 PM

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Does anyone know about the steroid rage rumors. lots of gym time, major muscle gain over 6 mo?
Does anyone think a judge shooter is going to get a fair shake in Reno or anywhere? Could someone promise him no death penalty in writing? He clearly went nuts but theres enough stuff to pin a premedidation on the second crime. Wont the judge call in every chip hes got to fry this guy? I doubt the judge feels guilty that his decisions are part of why this happened but maybe he does and will have some forgiveness for a guy that tried to kill him. I doubt Darren is excited about relying on the mercy of any Washoe court system righf now. Any input welcome
Posted by expose at June 22, 2006 07:11 PM

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Thanks DB, No surprise that my ex's lawyer is on there...

Mark-Thank you for breaking it down for us, we will never see that on the news.
Posted by Thankful at June 22, 2006 07:12 PM

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OHMGOSH!-I think its "C'mon People" and I agree
Posted by maybe at June 22, 2006 07:31 PM

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Who says "Gosh"?

Totally Gay. I mean that in a non-sexual harassment sort of way. lol

Yeah, you guys are definitely in Reno.
Posted by wannabe lawyer at June 22, 2006 07:44 PM

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I bet you are right about C'mon people. That maybe an accurate portrayal of his psyche even if its not him
Posted by expose at June 22, 2006 08:47 PM

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OMGOSH! You may be the smartest person on the blog! You'll have Mack back....soon. Reno is safe once again. :)
Posted by :) at June 22, 2006 11:49 PM

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interesting day.the national news is potraying him as a monster who killed his wife in front of his kid. it would seem more likely that he was driven insane by the legal system. my own axe to grind is that the truth about the family court procedures here need be seen as part of this travesty. unless he disappears for good or dies soon his version of this will come out. i think he has posted on this site too. certainly some of his friends have. there truly has not been enough said about what drove him mad.
Posted by oversight at June 22, 2006 11:49 PM

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mack turned himself in and is being transported back to reno today
Posted by justmy.02 at June 23, 2006 06:59 AM

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i certainly hope the truth comes out about everything that has been alleged to take place in his courtroom.(weller) it would absolutly be a travesty to focus entirely on exposing mack to be an animal and just sweep everything else under the rug, but we know birds of a feather flock together. the judicial system is most likely not going to work very hard at exposing one of thier brothers.
Posted by justmy.02 at June 23, 2006 07:06 AM