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June 23, 2006
Darren Mack Wants His Fifteen Minutes Of Fame
Darren Mack had allegedly contacted a reporter, demanding that he'd turn himself in if he could speak live on television about the "Nazi attitude" of the court system. He still thinks he can bully his way into getting what he wants. The reporter misspelled his wife's name. It's "Charla", not "Darla".
I wonder if Dean Tong will still have contact with him, now that he has been captured? Will Tong make excuses for him?
I found this post at Stand Your Ground. One of my trolls, Fraud, is really bluegrass, who has bashed me over there in a new post.
Bold below highlights Mack's most bone-headed demands.
"BULLETIN from William WAGENER @ OST
======================================Santa Maria, Thursday was consummed trying to get
reputed fugitive Darren Roy Mack, who is thought to
be in Mexico to turn himself in to authorities.Thursday Morning Darren R. Mack emailed
William Wagener, Producer of www.OnSecondThought.tv
and a local TV show in central Coast of California,
with a piece of information that confirmed his identity.Authorities, including FBI & D.A. of Washoe County, Nevada,
and Reno PD, have been seeking Mr. Mack in connection to the
death of his estranged wife, Darla in Reno, and the shooting of
the judge, Charle Weller, who sat on their custody/divorce case.William Wagener is the only person to have taped Darren Mack
on or about May 27, 2006, and another Reno dad in connection
with the reputed crooked acts of Judge Charles Weller nearly 2 weeks
before the events of June 12, when Judge Weller was shot through
his 3rd floor Window of the Courthouse. Mr. Mack had tried in vein for
months to get media attention to the blatantly unfair rulings of Judge
Weller, in his case and a dozen other cases.In an undisclosed location in the East Bay area mountains, the interview
took place. Fearing Judge Weller might throw Darren Mack into
jail if the interview was broadcast before an appeal was tried, the tapes
were held by a 3rd party with intention to deliver only if Darren Mack was
in jail, dead, or incapacitated by acts related to Judge Wellers conduct.Darren Mack and other Reno non custodial parents, NCP's, were tentatively scheduled to fly down to Santa Maria, CA, from Reno, Nevada, out of judge Wellers jurisdiction and do a better interview about June 12th to 15th, in a Community Access Studio.
Wagener delayed and indicated it would be better a week later. June 12, 2006, Darla Mack was killed and Judge Charles Weller shot on the third floor.
Yesterday, on Thursday, morning, William Wagener's On Second Thought,
received a reply from a request for Mack to prove he was not an impersonator.Darren Mack was willing to turn himself in IF, he was allowed to speak on National Television, on the reputed crooked activities of Judge Charles Weller, and Mr. Mack had been talking to authority of D.A. of Washoe County for some days about conditions underwhich he would turn himself in and avoid any more bloodshed.
All day, Wagener emailed Mr. Macks first choice, Greta Van Sustern, and talked finally with her producer and then Greta, but Greta refused to take Wagener's confirmation and insisted that Darren Mack call her directly and prove he was the man police are looking for in Mexico and USA. Each time with a plea to turn himself in, after he got to say his piece to a national audience. Mr. Mack also indicated that Police had not kept all of their side of their arrangement in an email to Wagener, at OnSecond Thought.
At about 9:30 pm EST, Greta Van Sustern, held to the view that Mr. Mack who she had never met would have to prove his identity to her. Result, it did not happen. And the man hunt did not end, and risk that people may be injured by the man hunt and its termination, continues. An effort is being made now to contact European English speaking TV talk shows.
All Darren Macks seems to want is an opportunity to speak his peace BEFORE he surrenders.
Darren Mack also wants to expose the "Nazi" attitude of "Family Court" toward NCPs.
He claims to have devastating evidence against the Reno Court system and Judge Weller in particular. If so it could be a indictment of the Nevada Judicial system in total, with regards to "Family Court"
That all that stands between continued hunt, and the fugitive Mack turning himself in to authorities. Mack indicated that his side of the story, about corruption of Family Court is not be mentioned anywhere. What is clear, is On The Record, with Greta had a clear chance to end it, and set a standard that could not be met.
Post and republish as you wish.
William J. Wagener
TV Host & Producer of /\
www.OnSecondThought.TV /// \\\
805 928-1100"
Darren Mack already had his say when he stabbed his wife to death, shot the judge who heard his divorce case, and shot the judge's female colleague. He's an abusive bully who wants his demands to be met, even after he was a fugitive from the law. I hope that no reporter gives this asshat the time of day to "present his side". He's already presented his side. If the court doesn't meet his demands, he kills his wife and shoots court personnel.
K9 from Stand Your Ground commented about the reporter's claim. Did he jump down Mack's throat for killing his wife?
No.
Did he jump down Mack's throat for shooting the judge and the judge's co-worker?
Not a chance.
He went on a "the system is corrupt" rant. Here's what he wrote:
"Does anybody think Greta is going to allow anything on her show that would implicate the feminist controlled family court system? The only reform bimbos like her want are harsher penalties and less or no visitation for fathers.
Greta is a feminist hack."
What a bunch of great guys!
Posted on June 23, 2006 at 11:43 AM | Permalink
Comments
k9 is also the one, I believe, who originally applauded Mack's choice to use violence in the first place.
it wasn't until AFTER several blogs had posted critical comments about FRs reaction to the Mack shooting, that an administrator went back and gave him a "warning" for condoning violence.
So, I'm not surprised.
You are right that Mack already had his say in the form of stabbing his wife to death and attempting to murder Judge Weller. He should not ever be allowed to make money off his "story", either.
Posted by: txfeminist at Jun 23, 2006 2:05:35 PM
Not only are these guys thugs, they have no knowledge of history. It is the FRs, like the Nazis, who engage in brownshirt tactics and assassinations. Not feminists. In fact, you could probably make the argument that one tactical vulnerability as far as feminists go, is that women never do engage in collective violence in their own defense, in contrast to groups organized as workers, or on racial or ethnic lines, etc. And yet like the Nazis, the FRs subject women to the Big Lie constantly. There is no equivalent of women or mothers killing judges and their ex's as part of premeditated campaign of terror, with women cheering them on from the sidelines. The only way the FRs can even stretch the argument is to dig up people with mental illnesses--severe and documented illnesses--and pretend that it's the same situation. Sorry, even as one of those feminist types, I can make a distinction between a man who deliberately targets a judge for assassination and some wacko with a long history of schizophrenia and hospitalizations who hears "voices" telling him to kill somebody. Any reasonable person would. But the FRs mix up the two because they can't find all those violent women out there they keep talking about.
I really get sick of their whining. The same ones who complain about women "stealing" their money for child support etc. don't hesitate to have their hand out for child support after they strip the ex of custody. It's all bullshit.
Posted by: silverside at Jun 23, 2006 2:20:03 PM
Silverside, I'm writing an article now about the history of the FR movement that shows their Brownshirt abusive tactics for what they are. One group from Australia even calls itself the Brownshirts. Feminists have never employed those kinds of initimidating and abusive tactics. Women don't kill their husband when they don't get custody, the way Darren Mack did. Mack had been to meetings of Nevadans for Equal Parenting. Women don't shoot judges, the way Mack did. Women just don't do those things. It's angry men who don't get their way in their divorces and custody cases who do that. They always cite women with postpartum depression orr other rare psychoses to "prove" women are just as abusive as men. It doesn't fly.
You're right about father's rights activists. They are all bullshit.
Posted by: The Countess at Jun 23, 2006 2:35:40 PM
As usual you are both liars and BULLSHITTERS. Trish threatened violence
using her maninga man and there are plenty of examples of feminist groups using violence to get their own way.
You deluded.
Posted by: Fraud at Jun 24, 2006 3:08:48 PM
Translation:
WAAAAAH SHE"S BEING MEAN TO ME MOMMY!
Posted by: pheeno at Jun 24, 2006 3:34:37 PM
"Translation:
WAAAAAH SHE"S BEING MEAN TO ME MOMMY!
"
Translation:- I abuse men and if they try to take away my victim status i will demean them by calling something less than men.
Posted by: Fraud at Jun 24, 2006 4:08:58 PM
Oh yes, not fucking the stupid is me abusing men.
You poor poor thing.
Is that VICTIM WHINING I see? Why yes yes it is.
Look! She's abusing meeeee!
Infant.
Posted by: pheeno at Jun 24, 2006 4:14:39 PM
"As usual you are both liars and BULLSHITTERS. Trish threatened violence
using her maninga man and there are plenty of examples of feminist groups using violence to get their own way."
Proof, please.
Posted by: nerdlet at Jun 24, 2006 10:31:20 PM
Anyone remember the Jodie Foster movie, The Accused? She played a rape victim who demanded prosecution of the men who cheered and urged her rapist to commit the rape. This gang mentality has to end. It is time we demanded prosecution for anyone who has encouraged Mack to use himself as an example of the family courts' creating a criminal victim-father.
I have seen media reports and blogs where Mack has been encouraged and applauded for his crimes, as well as supporters who offer up incredible excuses like he "snapped" from the stress of the divorce and custody. (can't mentally "snap" when arranging to meet your 1st murder victim then going across town to set your gun sights on the next one, that was calculated and premeditated)
What I have seen in the Darren Mack case is that he had a history of mental disorders (narcississtic and obviously homicidal) and he was easily enticed to commit these crimes, self-justified by the support of other men who were angry at the family courts. Maybe he thinks he has enough money to buy his acquittal, maybe he just doesn't care as long as he gets as much publicity as Scott Peterson.
His blogs, as well as those who have encouraged his criminal acts are online and available to prosecutors. I for one, am writing letters to demand that these accessories-to-murder be held accountable too. They can tell their sad stories in criminal court to a jury and see how much sympathy they get when they try to justify their angry, vile blogs.
Posted by: justonemom at Jun 25, 2006 3:18:19 AM
There are four boxes onto which free people shall effect change.
1. The soap box.
2. The ballot box.
3. The jury box.
4. The cartridge box.
As an outsider looking in I see two distinctly different crimses being committed. First is the murder of his estranged wife and mother of his child. There is no excuse for this unless she was letting a new boyfriend molest their child. Since there are no reports of this that I know of I will presume she was just another mother going through an ugly divorce. She deserved to live.
Second, is an exasperated man left with what he felt was nothing left to lose. I've spoken with a few Reno natives and they all told me that the judge is a pile of judicial garbage who doesn't properly hear evidence or follow procedures. When theory gets applied to reality and the cartridge box is the only of four boxes remaining untried, a bad judge must lay his life down on the altar of freedom. It is my hope that the corrupt judge rethinks his career and moves on to a position of diminished influence over people's lives.
That this judge harms more men or more women is not relevant. Any person who leaves people with no option but violence should not be in a position to leave people with no options at all. Simply because only one "fringe element" person fought back does not make him a martyr. One can only imageine the men and women (and ultimately the children) who have suffered silently from the pounding of his gavel.
It took a monster to stop a monster.
Now let's pray for the true victims, his estranged wife and the child who will never truly know family.
Posted by: Dennis at Jun 25, 2006 4:27:37 AM
Justonemom: "Anyone remember the Jodie Foster movie, The Accused? She played a rape victim who demanded prosecution of the men who cheered and urged her rapist to commit the rape. This gang mentality has to end. It is time we demanded prosecution for anyone who has encouraged Mack to use himself as an example of the family courts' creating a criminal victim-father."
That was the New Bedford, Mass. rape case. I remember when it was in the news. I saw the movie, too. I read somewhere that Kelly McGillis, who played Foster's attorney (I think), was originally slated to play the rape victim, but she turned down the role because she said she had been raped herself. The role was a little too close to home and painful for her.
The Mack case isn't the first time I've seen fathers' rights activists support the heinous behavior of a father. Yes, they cheered on Mack and blamed "the system" for him stabbing his wife to death and shooting two people who worked at the courthouse.
Fathers' rights activists also cheered on Lowell Jaks when Jaks kidnapped his son. Jaks is the head of the Alliance For Non-Custodial Parent's Rights (ANCPR). He spent time in jail, but now he's back to work on the ANCPR web site and blog. ANCPR's main focus is helping men get out of paying their child support obligations.
Stuart Miller (Fathers' Manifesto signatory, legislative analyst for the American Fathers Coalition, and a leader in the American Coalition for Fathers and Children) sympathized with Alan Gubernat, who murdered his 3 year old son when the mother refused to give the boy his last name. Miller blamed "the system". He wrote on Usenet that, "The New Jersey Supreme Court executed a father because he wanted to accept his parental responsibilities... Alan Gubernat shot himself and his three-year-old son ... Feminist women have almost completely destroyed the family and all associated with it that is holy. The Bible clearly states that the fathers are to be the head of the household. This is not to mention the Magna Carte, upon which all of our constitutions and institutions are founded. But the government, with its judicial henchmen, have propagated upon society a system that is diametrically opposed to the Word of God... It is interesting to note, not only the outrageousness of the NJ decision, but the gradual "move forward" in the judiciary's attitudes, whereby women are no longer disgraced by bearing children outside of wedlock, men are. Men are also vilified by the Pimp and the Vice-Pimp of the United States. No longer are men warned not to fall victim to the wiles of "loose women."
Posted by: The Countess at Jun 25, 2006 11:05:11 AM











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