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January 25, 2006
More On "Breaking The Silence" And Child Custody
Cathy Young has an article out in the Boston Globe about "Breaking The Silence: Children's Stories" and child custody. Here's part of what she had to say:
LAST NOVEMBER, I wrote about the controversy about the Public Broadcasting Service documentary, ''Breaking the Silence: Children's Stories," which claimed that male batterers and child abusers frequently gain custody of their children in divorce cases after the mothers' claims of abuse are disbelieved by the courts. The film caused an outcry from fathers' rights groups. In response to these protests, PBS announced a 30-day review to determine whether the film met the editorial guidelines for fairness and accuracy.
Unfortunately, it seems that the review amounted to little more than a whitewash.
On Dec. 21, PBS issued a statement acknowledging that the film ''would have benefited from more in-depth treatment of the complex issues," but also concluded that ''the producers approached the topic with the open-mindedness and commitment to fairness that we require of our journalists" and that the program's claims were supported by ''extensive" research.
It's no accident that she would use the word "whitewash" to describe PBS's final statement. She saw that term used by the fathers' rights group RADAR, which had issued an inflammatory alert after PBS released its final statement. RADAR entitled its alert "PBS Whitewashes Flawed Documentary." RADAR and other fathers' rights activists were livid when PBS in the end came out in support of "Breaking The Silence". It's very clear, especially with her use of the word "whitewash", that she is getting her information from fathers' rights web sites and alerts.
Cathy quoted a few points from the final statement, including the fact that PBS found the documentary to be open-minded and fair. Here is the statement in its entirety, for everyone's convenience:
PBS STATEMENT RE: BTS
Breaking The Silence: Children's Stories (BTS) chronicles the impact of domestic violence on children and the recurring failings of family courts across the country to protect them from their abusers. In stark and often poignant interviews, children and battered mothers tell their stories of abuse at home and continued trauma within the courts. The producers approached the topic with the open mindedness and commitment
to fairness that we require of our journalists. Their research was extensive and supports the conclusions drawn in the program. Funding from the Mary Kay Ash Charitable Foundation met PBS's underwriting
guidelines; the Foundation had no editorial influence on program content.However, the program would have benefited from more in-depth treatment of the complex issues surrounding child custody and the role of family courts and most specifically the provocative topic of Parental Alienation Syndrome (PAS). Additionally, the documentary's "first-person story telling approach" did not allow the depth of the producers' research to be as evident to the viewer as it could have been.
PBS has received a substantial body of analysis and documentation from both supporters of the documentary and its critics.
It is clear to us that this complex and important issue would benefit from further examination. To that end, PBS will commission an hour-long documentary for that purpose. Plans call for the documentary to be produced and broadcast in Spring 2006. We expect that the hour-long treatment of the subject will allow ample opportunity for doctors, psychologists, judges, parent advocates and victims of abuse to have their perspectives shared, challenged and debated.
PBS had delayed making its final statement until it had time to digest a 20 page report by the Massachusetts fathers' rights group Fathers and Families. "Breaking The Silence" producer Dominique Lasseur and George Washington University Law Professor Joan Meier soon after provided their own rebuttal to that report. You may read their rebuttal on this page on my web site. I've included my own thoughts on that page. My link to the Lasseur/Meier report includes a link to the Fathers and Families report. The Lasseur/Meier report certainly isn't "shoddy and self-serving", as Young described it. The report by Fathers and Families was shoddy and self-serving. It made baseless attacks against the documentary, took valid research out of context and misrepresented it, and it made ad hominem attacks against persons connected to and not connected to the documentary.
What is important is that, in the end, PBS endorsed "Breaking The Silence". It was not swayed by a 20 page "report" from a fathers' rights group that was full of propaganda and ad hominem attacks. It wasn't swayed by thousands of angry e-mails from fathers' rights activists. The documentary has already been shown in several states to legislators and those who work on abuse issues. I know that it is scheduled to be shown around the country in the future.
Cathy Young had taken the custody-to-batterers figures stated in the documentary to task. Barry at Alas A Blog has addressed her claims, so I will quote what he wrote on his blog. He was responding to this, by Young:
Thus, the reports cite the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court's Gender Bias Study of 1989 as proof that fathers who seek custody receive it at least 70 percent of the time -- even though this study does not distinguish custody disputes from cases in which the father got custody by mutual agreement. Other sources used to support the claim of male advantage are even weaker: They include the Battered Mothers' Testimony Project from the Wellesley Center for Women, which used a sample of 40 women with grievances about the family courts. No mention is made of much larger, representative studies of divorcing couples (such as the one reported by Stanford University psychologist Eleanor Maccoby and Harvard law professor Robert Mnookin in the 1992 book ''Dividing the Child") showing that far fewer fathers than mothers get the custodial arrangements they want.
Barry pointed out that "it's true that Dividing the Child found that "far fewer fathers than mothers get the custody arrangements they want," but by putting it that way, Cathy fails to distinguish between custody disputes which reached an out-of-court settlement - what you might call "custody by mutual agreement" - and custody disputes in which the court made the decision."
He had also quoted directly from Dividing the Child, while initially misunderstanding that the quote about "fathers who conceded custody at lower levels of the conflict pyramid" means that those fathers had initially contested custody, but lost, and decided to not appeal. They didn't get what they wanted. So, Young is right in the sense that some fathers who contest custody do not necessarily get what they want. However, Maccoby and Mnookin do differentiate between cases that must be decided by a judge and cases where the parents decide on their own by mutual agreement.
We have found that although mothers receive sole physical custody in the vast majority of cases, the proportion of joint or father custody outcomes approaches 50 percent for high-conflict families. At first blush, this finding would appear to disprove allegations that the California divorce process reflects and perpetuates gender bias. Why, after all, shouldn’t a 50-50 distribution of outcomes suggest gender neutrality?
Both advocates for women’s rights and advocates for fathers' rights would probably reject this reading of our findings, and in fact the presence or absence of gender bias in the legal process is not so simple to establish. A fathers' rights group might well argue that since the overall gender ratio in cases where there are conflicting requests is 2 to 1, the law in action still reflects a maternal presumption. Why, after all, would fathers who conceded custody at lower levels of the conflict pyramid have settled for less than they wanted if they believed they had a 50 percent chance? Advocates for women, on the other hand, would counter that our findings demonstrate that escalation of legal conflict over custody clearly operates to the benefit of fathers. As we demonstrated in Chapter 3 before divorce mothers are the primary caretakers of children far more often than men. Thus, a 50-50 distribution of outcomes should be considered neither fair nor neutral. Rather, a "fair" distribution of outcomes should reflect differences in the care-taking base rate for mothers and fathers.
Alternatively, suppose that, on the merits, custody claims of mothers were, on the average, no stronger than the claims of fathers. (Imagine a judge going into her chambers and flipping a coin in all contested cases.) The outcome ratios might still vary by conflict level if most mothers simply cared more about the custodial outcomes than most fathers, and were therefore more prepared to escalate the conflict to a higher level rather than settle for less than their preferred custodial alternative. Because it takes time and energy to work one's way up the conflict pyramid, this would imply that only in a small minority of families would the father be prepared to pay the price, even though those who did so might have a 50 percent chance of prevailing.
But one thing does seem reasonably clear: our finding that the gender ratio of custody decrees at the top approaches 50-50 even though the overall ratio among conflicted cases is closer to 2 to 1 in favor of mothers demonstrates neither the presence nor the absence of gender bias.
Maccoby and Mnookin left out one important point. It not only takes time and energy to move up the conflict pyramid, it takes money. Lots of it. Contested custody cases can cost in the six figures. More men have that kind of money at their disposal than women. Sometimes fathers are able to win custody because they were able to outspend the mother in court.
I do agree that the fact that when fathers make an issue of custody, they get some form of it in at least half of the cases at the top that must go before a judge. There are many reasons why a father who gave up in the lower rungs of the conflict ladder may have lost. He might have run out of money. He might not have presented himself well in court. It may have been clear to the judge that the mother was the primary caregiver of the children, and that was why in the end the judge ruled in her favor. The fact that a father has the ability to be a good parent for the children alone is not a good reason for custody to be given to him. Other factors must be looked at, such as past parenting patterns. The only way to determine what kind of parenting a parent will do is to look at the past - what has already been done? Who had done it? What did that person give up in order to do it?
In addition, Maccoby and Mnookin identified those particular cases as "high-conflict". Abusers, ne'er do wells, control freaks, people with power issues, alcoholics and drug addicts, passive aggressive jerks, people with psychological problems, and other serious "issues" are over-represented in contested custody cases. People with serious issues make up "high-conflict" cases. Ann White wrote for the Florida Bar Journal that "abusive fathers are more likely than non-abusive parents to contest custody, not pay child support, and kidnap their children." Also, a father in a high-conflict case who wins custody may not necessarily have been the children's primary caregiver. I believe there is a problem of bias in these kinds of cases when a mother's established primary caregiver status and the career, salary, opportunity, and life costs she has incurred and will continue to incur in her capacity as the children's primary are ignored and denigrated when awarding some form of custody to a non-primary caregiving father who has "issues".
Parents aren't "equally situated" regarding their parenting. Mothers do tend to take on the primary caregiver role, and fathers follow their lead. They are certainly not equally situated, and they are not on equal footing regarding parenting upon divorce. It's no accident that mothers most often get custody of the children in those cases where both parents make the decision themselves. Those mothers had taken on the bulk of the childrearing from day one, as well as the costs that go with taking on the primary caregiving role. This does not negate the fathers' role. His role is important. It must be recognized that moms and dads are not equally situated in their established parenting patterns. One is a primary caregiver and the other is not.
These excerpts are from the paper "Co Parenting, A Review Of The Literature," by Terry Arendell, from the National Center On Fathers And Families. At least no one here can accuse the National Center On Fathers And Families of being a feminist organization that hates dads. ;)
"What is evident in the extant body of research is that fathers, in general, do far less parenting work than mothers, and most men view their parenting involvement as discretionary. Highly involved fathers are an anomaly. For the most part, father participation in child caretaking is greatest among married men and lowest among unwed young fathers."
"Father Involvement in Married Families
The term co-parenting or shared parenting among married couples typically refers to arrangements in which fathers' participation is more or less equal to mothers'. Such involvement remains relatively rare, despite the increased rhetorical attention given to the "new father" in recent years.""Parenting and the Conventional Gendered Division of Labor
Men's primary family role across the twentieth century has been predominantly that of income-providing. The good provider role is a major component of the norms and conventions of masculinity: a man's status and worth are linked closely to his occupational achievements and earnings levels. Although offering men, who are able to meet the success ethic, prestige and an array of domestic power and privileges, the good provider role carries costs as well, particularly in curtailing men's expressivity, intimacy, and nurturing activities (Bernard, 1981; Goode, 1982; Weiss, 1990; 1987; 1985).""Not only men but also women expect men to be income providers and measure their worth by their earnings and occupational status (Faludi, 1991). At the same time, the good provider role is being challenged, with demands being levied against men to be more expressive, affectionate, and disclosing, and far more involved in the numerous facets of daily family life. Some men actively reject the narrow provider role and choose to be fuller family participants."
"Traditionally, caring for others, including children, has been a gendered activity, defined as women's work and done predominately by women (e.g., Tronto, 1989; Cowan and Cowan, 1988; Cox et al., 1989; Tiedje and Darling-Fisher, 1993; Perry-Jenkins and Folk, 1994; Chodorow, 1978; Pleck, 1987). Few men have increased their household and childcaretaking efforts significantly, even though women now couple their traditional domestic and parenting roles with those of income earning, sharing the provider role (e.g., Blair and Johnson, 1992). Men remain preoccupied predominately with activities outside the home (e.g., Hochschild, 1989; Pleck, 1985; Douthitt, 1988; Seidler, 1992), and mothers carry primary responsibility for child care, regardless of their employment status (Tiedje and Darling-Fisher, 1993). Thus, women's employment has not led to clear-cut changes in family roles (e.g., Fish et al., 1992; Hochschild, 1989)."
I agree with Arendell that the dad as provider role needs to change. It would be good for men to have a more well-rounded life that includes more involvement with their children, not just "helping" but taking on the same opportunity costs that mothers take on when they take on the primary caregiver role. Not enough men do that. If fathers want to "share parenting" upon divorce, they need to "share parenting" properly while they are married. They need to take on the same career, salary, opportunity, and life costs that primary caregiving mothers take on. Those costs cannot be regained, and primary caregiving mothers continue to make those sacrifices throughout all the years they raise their children. Those costs will affect them for the rest of their lives. Non-primary caregiving fathers do not take on those kinds of losses. Courts need to recognize the sacrifices made by primary caregiving moms, and not be tempted by the "equally situated" rhetoric promoted by "shared parenting" advocates.
Barry has pointed out an interesting comment by Young. She wrote, "In the same vein, Lasseur's report is supplemented by a letter signed by "98 professionals" who support the film's conclusions — but a number of those "professionals" are feminist activists, including National Organization for Women President Kim Gandy." I agree with him when he wrote, "[b]ut I find it odd that a self-identified feminist has so much contempt for feminism that if any feminist activists (many of whom have spent years or decades involved with abuse issues) sign a letter, that is in Cathy's analysis ipso facto reason to dismiss the entire letter. Maybe next time Cathy should take a moment to examine her own idealogical biases."
Barry had also discussed Young's misleading description of the Massachusetts Gender Bias Report in an update.
My last point is an important one. "Breaking The Silence" was not about mothers or fathers. It was about abused children speaking out about the abuse the had experienced coming from their abusive fathers. The documentary does not malign all fathers. It is very specifically about children speaking out about abuse from their abusive fathers. Fathers' rights activists have demanded "equal time" to air "the other side". What would the other side of a documentary about abused children speaking about their abusive fathers be? A documentary supporting abusive fathers who seek custody of their children? Hopefully, PBS has enough sense to not promote such a documentary.
Posted on January 25, 2006 at 09:43 AM | Permalink
Comments
Cathy Young has been claiming to be a feminist for years, so nobody looks too close at her tactics: misquoting, partial quoting, misinterpretation, always in one direction. Feminist bashing is always more palatable when it comes from someone who's female and who and who doesn't resort to the frothing hatred so common to male anti-feminists. She's the perfect example of Amp's 'civility' policy: pretty lies are better than the ugly truth.
Posted by: ginmar at Jan 25, 2006 11:26:27 AM
Young's views aren't feminist, even though she claims she's a feminist. I also noticed that she jumped all over feminists who supported "Breaking The Silence". Why do so many so-called feminists spend so much time bashing other feminists? The real feminists I know don't hold other feminists in contempt. PBS in the end supported the documentary, and anti-feminists, faux feminists, and fathers' rights activists are very unhappy about it. I know that the documentary is due to be aired again soon, but I won't say when or where because I don't want fathers' rights activists jumping all over it.
Another blog made the big mistake of posting Young's article in full, and fathers' rights activists swarmed in there bashing the documentary and feminists. What a surprise.
Posted by: The Countess at Jan 25, 2006 11:56:02 AM
Like I said: she's using the label for cred. I've read one of her books and it was so badly-reasoned and so misleadingly sourced that I had to give it up in disgust.
Posted by: ginmar at Jan 25, 2006 3:18:59 PM
I know Cathy Young doesn't like to be called an anti-feminist, and just because I'm a nice person I won't call her that, but I don't think she is the least bit feminist, despite what she says. I've seen so many inconsistencies and outright misrepresentations in her writings about feminism, domestic violence, child abuse, and especially "Breaking The Silence: Children's Stories". It's no wonder anti-feminists like her. How can you claim to be a feminist yet support anti-feminist viewpoints as well as show such utter contempt for the real feminists out there?
Posted by: The Countess at Jan 25, 2006 3:26:44 PM
Very interesting post Countess. Thanks. I want to go back and reread it when I have a little more time.
Are you advocating that we should return to giving more weight to the "primary care-giver" factor in custody cases?
Posted by: will at Jan 25, 2006 3:53:51 PM
I think that the primary caregiver factor already has a lot of weight in custody cases (especially when parents decide on their own how to settle their divorces), but the drive for "shared parenting" is ignoring the contributions and sacrifices of the primary caregiving parent, who is most often the mother. Some fathers today are able to get either joint or sole custody without ever having been the primary caregivers of the children. That ignores the established parenting patterns of both parents, and it ignores and denigrates the contributions and sacrifices taken on by primary caregiving parents. Children benefit most from familiarity, as little conflict as possible, and the bond between themselves and their primary caregivers. It's not good that those qualities are being ignored in favor of "equitable" parenting.
Posted by: The Countess at Jan 25, 2006 5:04:33 PM
I wanted to comment and get your thoughts. I am not familiar with the article being discussed, but live in a situation where my divorce and custody issues are complex. I was in a very controlling relationship. My ex-husband was 16 years older, had a lot of money, and worked from home. I was young, without family at the time and had nothing. I signed a pre-nup, against strong legal advice (I was in love). In short, I was a stay at home mother for my sons for the first 5 years, with taking classes online and some at the local university. At several points, I did take on part time work, as my ex was so controlling that I couldn't even call my own mother using his long distance. For years, my ex-husband (who I worshipped) called me an asshole, fat, ugly, stupid,disgusting...never hit me or my sons but was extremely manipulative. He would be angry with my oldest and tell him "do you want me to spank you til you bleed?" Anyway, I found out he was cheating on me and I became very close to suicide. I took the kids and left, gained temporary custody. THe day before the hearing I was coerced into a joint agreement which in actuality was less than half. The rationale was that the legal system doesn't like to give full custody to either parent, and fathers rights were more heavily weighted. (It's amazing how many mother's are 'talked' out of going to court through attorneys and the disaster they practice called 'mediation'.) I filed a petition (alone) to modify and althought the judge stated he was concerned about my ex's personality issues, he didn't feel comfortable with giving me custody as I was completing my education and my ex was a stay at home father (worked at home). Financial issues were also a consideration. I had used every last nickel of my retirement to get back on my feet and of course got nothing from 10 years of this relationship. I have been accused of horrible things, investigated for child abuse...you name it, because he will stop at nothing for control. I graduated in May, 2 years later with an extremely difficult custody situation. We had a court date early december and is continued until after march 2. I still have not found work, which was a stipulation of the court, in spite of some really desperate job searching on my part. I am not sure I can get through this legal system, which scares me, since my sons will leave me sadly saying, I don't want to leave or I want to stay with you...and then they are not permitted. Thanks for taking the time to read my post, and any opinions or ideas are welcome.
Posted by: minmonster at Jan 26, 2006 12:22:51 PM
Dear Minmonster,
Sadly, there are a lot of moms in situations like yours. First thing, don't beat up on yourself for the choices you made in the past. Mothers get into these situations because they don't work, because they do work, etc. Unfortunately the type of which you speak (and my ex was like this too) are so good at deflecting attention away from their own frequently documentable behavior and deflecting the doubts back onto their victims.
My ex was also very successful at styling himself as a stay-at-home dad, while I was creamed for having an outside job, which wasn't actually my personal choice. Manipulating the stay-at-home dad thing is something more women should be aware of. It saddens me when some feminists push this as a panacea. Not to say that this may not be the choice of some couples. But most mothers I know were forced into it (they had no choice as whether dad stayed home or not), and then it's held as blackmail over their heads.
Hopefully you can pick up support here, and maybe a few resources that may be of value to you and your sons.
Posted by: silverside at Jan 26, 2006 1:00:31 PM
Dear Silverside,
Thanks for the post. Some days, just not feeling like I'm not the only one in this kind of situation makes it a little less overwhelming.
Posted by: minmonster at Jan 26, 2006 4:09:37 PM
"Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court's Gender Bias Study of 1989 as proof that fathers who seek custody receive it at least 70 percent of the time "
Countess, I was just re-reading this portion. The study found that fathers who contest custody get primary or joint custody 70 perrcent of the time. Since they are including joint custody in their statistitcs, wouldnt that mean that women in a contested custody battle might also get primary or joint custody 70 percent of the time? When you include joint custody, you eliminate 100 percent as a statistic and both men and women could win primary or joint 70 percent of the time. Am I not correct?
Posted by: will at Jan 30, 2006 1:28:08 PM
I would be much more interested in the statistics about who wins primary custody. The inclusion of joint custody really muddies up the picture.
Posted by: will at Jan 30, 2006 1:30:57 PM
I agree that the Massachusetts gender bias report found that fathers win some form of custody 70% of the time when they make an issue of custody. Other gender bias reports from other states found that fathers win some form of custody at least half the time. At the time those reports came out, the most popular form of custody that fathers received was joint legal custody. Now, more fathers are getting both joint physical custody (which could mean anywhere from 35% to 50%) and even sole physical and legal custody, even if they had not been the children's primary caregiving parent. Batterers have also been able to get primary custody, mainly when courts refuse to believe mothers' and children's claims of abuse, as was evident in "Breaking The Silence: Children's Stories".
The gender bias reports don't mean that mothers want join custody and are getting it. They mean that nonprimary caregiving fathers want either joint physical or sole physical and legal custody, and even if they don't get what they want, they are still able to get some form of custody, even though they haven't earned it by taking on the life sacrifices that mothers take on in their primary caregiver role. If nonprimary caregiving fathers make an issue of custody, they often get some form of it.
I think about 3% of fathers have sole physical and legal custody, but I don't have a source handy for that statistic.
Posted by: The Countess at Jan 30, 2006 2:30:18 PM
In Virginia, the concept of "joint legal custody" does not mean much in practice. Virtually everyone gets joint legal custody on the theory that the parents should both discuss and decide important issues in the children's life. As a practical matter, the parent with physical custody usually will have the deciding vote.
Physical custody is far more telling statistic.
Posted by: will at Jan 30, 2006 3:05:58 PM
I don't agree with you at all, Will. Fathers rights activists say they want more say in how their children are raised, and they want to know how their children are doing. Joint legal custody gives fathers access to school and medical records. That's one way for fathers to know exactly how their children are doing. If fathers really were interested in how their children are doing, more of them would want their children's school progress reports and report cards as well as their medical records. More of them would like to speak directly to their children's doctors and to their teachers, but that's not the case. It seems to me that fathers' rights activists are more concerned with time than with how their children are actually doing in things that are important. Of course, a ruling for joint physical custody often results in a lower child support order. Sounds to me like too many fathers want to pay less in child support than are concerned about how their children are actually doing in their daily lives.
Posted by: The Countess at Jan 30, 2006 4:45:06 PM
I am not sure that I followed your logic Countess.
In Virginia, each parent has full access to all of the medical, educational and other records of the children even if the other parent has sole legal and physical custody.
I agree with you completely that child support drives many custody cases. I really have seen it work both ways. Custody and visitation cases would be much easier to resolve if not for child support.
Posted by: will at Jan 30, 2006 5:46:21 PM
It's not my logic, Will. It's the law in most states. Joint legal custody gives noncustodial parents access to those kinds of records. That's the form of custody most noncustodial parents have received when they demand joint custody.
What do you mean that "it works both ways"? Joint legal custody is what most father have received when they demand joint custody, even if they originally wanted joint physical custody. The joint custody laws world-wide tend to mean "shared parental responsiblity" which means joint legal custody. Noncustodial parents have access to those kinds of records, but joint legal custody doesn't give them a means to lower their child support obligations. That's one thing fathers' rights activists want when they petition for joint physical custody, but they aren't necessarily getting that. Even when they do, they complain that the lower child support order isn't low enough for their tastes. They can't be pleased.
Posted by: The Countess at Jan 30, 2006 6:32:29 PM
In Virginia, you get access to those records even if you do not have joint legal custody.
What I meant is that women and men are painfully aware that the decisions regarding custody impact child support. So cases that might otherwise get worked out, dont because of child support.
Posted by: will at Jan 30, 2006 9:18:59 PM
"I think about 3% of fathers have sole physical and legal custody, but I don't have a source handy for that statistic."
You can find that statistic in any federal census. So few fathers have sole custody that they don't rate a line item.
Cynthis McNeely also provides that statistic in her article debunking Mass. Gender Bias Study here.
LAGGING BEHIND THE TIMES: PARENTHOOD, CUSTODY, AND GENDER BIAS IN THE FAMILY COURT[*]
CYNTHIA A. MCNEELY[**]
Copyright © 1998 Cynthia A. McNeely
http://www.law.fsu.edu/journals/lawreview/frames/254/mcnefram.html
Posted by: Nicholas James at Feb 14, 2006 12:47:38 PM
Where's the joint?
We are given joint custody only on paper.
In any dispute the primary domiciliary is assumed to be acting in 'the child's best interest'. Many primary parents abuse this authority and never even consult the other parent.
Oh boy, we have access to the child's records - that is if you can find the doctor that they took the child too. And if the doctor actually obeys the law - many don't.
Standard 'visitation' is only 4 days out of every thirty. Not much shared in that. Also not much opportunity to lead or guide your child either.
There is nothing joint about the standard child support tables either. They take 100% of the money that PSI estimates you would have spent to raise the child as a couple and awards it all to the primary parent.
I have a document from our committee on our legislature saying that think it is appropriate is child support equals 100% of a persons income.
Failure to recognize that there are abusive parties in both genders weakens your case.
Posted by: Nicholas James at Feb 14, 2006 1:01:54 PM











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