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November 18, 2005

"Breaking The Silence" Shown In Massachusetts

"Breaking The Silence: Children's Stories" and "The Battered Mother's Custody Project" were both shown at the State House in Massachusetts on October 20. There was a panel discussion after the showing of "Breaking The Silence", and there was nary a fathers' rights activist in sight. Good. We don't need no steenking fathers' rights activists.

Lots of people who work on family law issues were invited to view both movies. These people are in need of educating regarding what happens to abused mothers and children in court. They needed to know that batterers are able to get custody when bogus "syndromes" like Parental Alienation Syndrome are introduced in court cases. PAS is a weapon used by fathers' rights activists and abusers in order to wrest custody away from protective mothers. Great harm is done to abused children when this is done, and the right people have heard from protective mothers and experts regarding this dreadful practice. Join online 70-448 and cisa to pass pass4sure 70-561 exams in first try. Our best quality 642-533 and testking 000-106 tutorials guide you well for real exam.

"Breaking The Silence: Children's Stories" is being shown to legislators and family law professionals around the country. They are getting educated regarding the ugly tactics taken on by abusers and fathers' rights activists. They are finally hearing about how horrible and bogus Parental Alienation Syndrome really is. As far as I know, PBS is not going to back down in supporting "Breaking The Silence". It's good to know that this important documentary is being shown to the people who can make the most difference for abused women and children in court.

Posted on November 18, 2005 at 09:13 AM | Permalink

Comments

Do you have some ideas of how I could view this documentary? I do not have a tv, but if it is being shown other places besides tv maybe I could get a chance to view it.

Posted by: lee at Nov 18, 2005 11:01:51 AM

Lee, do you have a VCR? I could ask around to see if anyone can get a taped copy to you. If it was shown in your state, the domestic violence groups might have a taped copy of it handy. Either that, or call your local PBS affiliate, and see if tapes are available. It's being shown to state legislators around the country, so there are definitely tapes out there circulating.

Posted by: The Countess at Nov 18, 2005 11:13:48 AM

I've seen it, and it doesn't bash fathers at all. I wonder if any of the fathers' rights activists who have protested it have actually seen it. It is very specifically about abused children telling their stories about being given over by the courts to their abused fathers. It doesn't denigrate dads across the board at all. What fathers' rights activists refuse to accept is that the documentary is not about fathers. It is about children, specifically abused children. They're trying to make it about fathers when it isn't really about them. It's about children.

Posted by: The Countess at Nov 18, 2005 11:16:19 AM

Thank you. I wrote a long post in reply, and then the computer ate it. I have lived this "alienation" stuff; I totally agree it is not a syndrome, not a psychological diagnosis, but a part of an overall abusive pattern.

I really would like to view this, but can't afford to purchase a dvd (funds are very tight right now). I do own both a vcr and dvd tho (my tv screen for viewing was a garbage find that works great for vcr and dvd but gets no tv reception -- perfect for my life style!).

Actually, I just had an idea! I just might be able to get the local library to purchase this if it is not in our local system yet (Southeastern Wisconsin Library System). Do you have any id info (with books it would be an isbn, not sure what it is with videos)? I just got honored by the library for my volunteer work there -- they wanted to give me $$ but I wanted the recognition for my work and for the library to keep the money (I was the primary person responsible for them raising over $5,000 in the past two years; I am quite proud of me!). If I had the info and asked, they would probably do it and then *many* people would have access to this!

Can you provide me with the info to follow up on this? I would need the ordering id stuff, plus a short blurb as to why they should purchase it (not a controversial one, please). Thank you!

Posted by: Lee at Nov 18, 2005 12:30:39 PM

Lee, I don't think the documentary is available for purchase yet. I don't have the ISBN number. Call your local PBS affiliate, and ask them if if they can give you the number, or a copy of the documentary on tape or DVD.

Posted by: The Countess at Nov 18, 2005 1:06:05 PM

Is it possible for someone outside North America to get a hold of these documentaries?

Posted by: Alon Levy at Nov 18, 2005 4:53:54 PM

I'm not sure, Alon. If it is, the DVD would have to be playable in your region. I know that DVDs are different depending on where you live. I buy a lot of DVDs from Asia, which is Region 3. Region 3 DVDs don't play in the U. S. I think the only ones that play here are Region 0 and Region 1. I'm sometimes able to find them in Asia. The same might apply to tapes. I hope to find a way of getting copies of the documentary from PBS or a group that is showing the film to legislators and court personnel. I'm looking into that now.

Posted by: The Countess at Nov 18, 2005 7:28:27 PM

Well, regions aren't my problem; my DVD player is region 0. Rather, my problem is with actually getting a hold of the DVDs. For example, are these documentaries going to be available in online stores such as Amazon sometime in the future?

Posted by: Alon Levy at Nov 19, 2005 11:48:09 AM

Well, regions aren't my problem; my DVD player is region 0. Rather, my problem is with actually getting a hold of the DVDs. For example, are these documentaries going to be available in online stores such as Amazon sometime in the future?

Posted by: Alon Levy at Nov 19, 2005 11:49:46 AM

Sorry for the double post.

Also, I couldn't see the confirmation number in the textbox; I ended up having to send somebody the link to the image and and ask her what number she sees.

Posted by: Alon Levy at Nov 19, 2005 11:54:24 AM

Alon, I think if it's available for purchase some day, the best bet is to go to PBS.org and find it there. It's not available yet to my knowledge.

Posted by: The Countess at Nov 19, 2005 12:39:35 PM

soriass, I just posted contact information to buy "Breaking The Silence".

Posted by: The Countess at Nov 19, 2005 12:54:21 PM

Just wanted to say that maybe NOW and other feminist groups/people should try to look at things as objectively as possible. This "documentary" clearly ACTIVELY withheld so much important information (including that a mother herself was convicted of Child abuse) that it couldn't be seen as "fair" and "reasonable" by anyone sane. It's not about father's rights or whatever, it's about PBS, public broadcasting should NOT be airing such clear positions of mistruth...or at the very least, not telling even HALF the story, and painting a false conclusion. Please, no matter what someone's political beliefs or advocacy issues...can we please get unslanted stories from somewhere??? ANYWHERE? PBS will lose it's tax exempt status after this is all said and done...it's tough to see how a show so misleading to the facts, could be viewed as anything less than policy pushing. A situation that will cost them their status and public broadcasting exemptions.

Posted by: Dylan at Dec 13, 2005 12:56:45 PM

I viewed the documentary and was shocked at the blatant disregard to standard research methods. Allegations and facts were stated that were just not true. I have to say that I followed the father's rights links that debunked this joke of a documentary. While it is true that women and childred are abused, we can NOT ignore that fact that women abuse children at a higher rate than men do. (See published National Health reports on child abuse). This film stinks of gender divisiveness, yellow journalism and irresponsibility.

Posted by: Chuck at Dec 14, 2005 9:38:35 AM

Chuck...Dylan: How DARE the two of you confuse this issue with facts and logic. Neither of those concepts are allowed here, so please keep them as far away from this website as possible.

Posted by: Jarrod at Dec 14, 2005 11:32:56 AM

Dylan, I've printed out and read many documents related to this site. I can't find ANYTHING that indicates a "conviction of Child Abuse". There are copies of court docs re allegations brought in 1998 by a social worker re abuse the 8 year old child allegedly told her of. The child herself, in a 2005 statement, says the allegations attributed to her at the age of 8 were "coached" and that they were untrue.

The social worker never interviewed the mother. The social worker's husband worked with the father. The social worker is a family friend of the father - noted as going on camping trips and to barbecues with him. She is clearly not an impartial witness or advocate for the child.

The court proceeding, based on these statements of the 8 year old child who states she was coached, do indicate a decision to award custody to the father.

Is this what your are referring to as a "conviction" for child abuse? The child custody proceedings and their outcome do not equate to "conviction" of Sadiya Alilire on child abuse, or any other charges.

Rick Gore, District Attorney investigator, ran criminal history inquiries on the mother in 2003. The direct quote from his report is "I tried to find any charges against Mrs. Alilire for child abuse and her criminal record is clear. There is no record of any prior arrest or any prior charges against her."

To me, the rabid reaction to this documentary by "fathers" - I feel like there should be more accurate wording here, like "sour, power-loving but power threatened men who place their own egos WAY before their childrens' welfare - exemplifies the message of the documentary. Scott Loeliger was described by the DA Investigator as a man who cares "about winning and being right rather than about his child." In my mind, he is a poster boy for rotten fatherhood. Nothing in the documents I read - especially those authored by him- persuades me he has the slightest idea of either how to be a good father, how to be a good husband, or most importantly, how to care about anyone except himself.

Posted by: Rincon at Dec 22, 2005 10:12:53 AM

I thought everyone here should know that PBS has released its final statement on "Breaking The Silence", and it has supported the documentary. The supporters of "Breaking The Silence" and abused moms and abused children have been vindicated.

I posted the final statement in this post. Fathers' rights activists have reacted exactly as I had expected they would - they are acting like frothing fruitcakes. Here is one post of their reactions, and they are quite ugly.

So all the speculations here about Sadiya Alilire supposedly being a child abuser and husband beater are off the mark. Also, the opinions here that "Breaking The Silence" is biased and poorly-researched are also off the mark. PBS has been told by fathers' rights activists that Alilire was supposedly an abuser. Fathers' rights activists also made their opinions about "Breaking The Silence" known to PBS. PBS apparently found no credibility in the accusations against Alilire, and it supported the documentary in its final statement. I suggest those who don't like either of those points find someplace else to complain. Take it off my blog.

Posted by: The Countess at Dec 22, 2005 10:57:38 AM

"While it is true that women and childred are abused, we can NOT ignore that fact that women abuse children at a higher rate than men do. (See published National Health reports on child abuse). This film stinks of gender divisiveness, yellow journalism and irresponsibility."

So men commit more crime overall then women, out numbering us by about ten to one in crime statistics.

So following your logic we should never do a documentary about men who are exonerated, since men commit more crimes then women anyway. Thus it's unfair to women to ever portray them as being wrongfully accused...

Interesting logic.

Posted by: NYMOM at Dec 22, 2005 11:04:21 AM

"PBS will lose it's tax exempt status after this is all said and done...it's tough to see how a show so misleading to the facts, could be viewed as anything less than policy pushing. A situation that will cost them their status and public broadcasting exemptions."

Really.

Dream on.

PBS has been around far longer then any of your mens rights groups and I believe will be around long after your groups have been consigned to the dust heap of history...

Posted by: NYMOM at Dec 22, 2005 11:09:12 AM

"The child custody proceedings and their outcome do not equate to "conviction" of Sadiya Alilire on child abuse, or any other charges.

Exactly.

The whole 'report' that the custody was reversed upon was based on an 8 year's old statements when she was under the control of her father during a visit. I mean what 8 year old would want to say something she knew her father wouldn't be happy with, especially while visiting him...

I love people who pretend not to understand this concept. Like they would be so brave facing down someone who could beat the crap out of them as soon as they got back home...

The only other 'professional' report was one that came from a girlfriend of the father and it too was based upon the same sort of 'facts', tittle tattle from others, who have since retracted everything they said.

No objective facts such as a medical report showing injuries or a hospital EM admission.

Nothing like that.


Posted by: NYMOM at Dec 22, 2005 11:27:57 AM