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June 02, 2004
The First Step Is Admitting You Have A Problem...
Roxanne from Rox Populi is onto something. Read the link. She has a lot of good things to say about the women and blogging issue.
She wrote this in comments at feministe:
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"Isn't the real bitching and moaning in all this really the A-List bloggers bemoaning the fact that real media doesn't take them seriously?
Sorry boys, writing what you think about the NYT article you read this morning doesn't make you a journalist. If you want to be a journalist, you're gonna have to do some reporting."
That must be the reason behind all the vitriol the guys have directed towards me, Lauren, and other women unlucky enough to be standing in the line of their fire. The guys are probably upset over articles bashing bloggers like them such as this one by the New York Times that painted a sorry sob story of the average guy's little blog and his addiction to it. [via Mac Diva.]
Posted on June 2, 2004 at 11:26 PM | Permalink
Comments
Roxanne's comment is somewhat ironical. It would be nice if someone got back to reporting. There is so little actual hard reporting any more that commenting on it is an execise in futility.
Wonkette seems to have sources at least as reliable as Judith Miller and she includes links.
I can't understand why anyone would want to be recognised by the major newspapers in this country. It is sort of a "kiss of death", like Time commenting on a style trend.
If someone feels the need of a cachet, create your own by writing a book.
Posted by: Bryan at Jun 3, 2004 12:13:23 AM
Eerily similar to my take in response to the "bloggers get credentials at the Democratic National Convention" story:
Maybe I'm jaded, but I think that real journalism involves leaving the basement, getting scoops, talking to highly placed and sometimes anonymous people. Blogging generally involves taking thrice-recycled items, applying ironic juxtaposition, and waiting for a small/large group people to agree/disagree with you.
Posted by: norbizness at Jun 3, 2004 12:37:55 PM
Bryan, I knew her comment was ironic. I guess that didn't come across in my post. The same A-listers and A-lister wannabes denounce the mainstream media while at the same time flirt with it, hoping to get some attention. That survey struck me as flirting with the media; sort of their version of a Sally Field moment (They like me! They really like me!) when a journalist says he or she reads a certain blogger. I don't know which journalists read which blogs, but I do know that Eric Zorn from the Chicago Tribune reads Leigh Ann Wilson's blog "One Good Thing." She's in my sidebar. Her blog is political, but not in the same way the A-listers view political blogs. Definitely not. Har. ;)
The A-listers want blogging to be the "new journalism," and it's a far cry from that. To paraphrase what Norbizness said, journalism isn't sitting in your underwear in front of your 'puter, pulling a couple of articles off a major media web site, writing "ironic juxtaposition," and then hoping you get instant feedback.
Now I have to get off my blog and finish my articles. Deadlines loom. ;)
Posted by: Trish Wilson at Jun 3, 2004 1:03:10 PM
i seem to have missed most of the fun in this discussion at feministe, but in my humble opinion A-list bloggers are all of the blogs that i read. B-listers are those that i don't. so this site is an A-list site. so is my friend sarah who mostly blogs about her own life (rather than some NYT article). my own site is the A-listiest, i check that one more than any other.
perhaps my views are too upyernoz-centric, but i submit that anyone who obsesses about some objective criteria about what blogs are A-list and what are not is more detached from reality than anything else. when viewed from the perspective of the outside world, all bloggers are fringe. personally i have no problem with that, but i find the people who believe they are somehow changing the world by picking apart william safire's lastest column to be pretty insufferable.
such are my random thoughts at the end of a busy day
Posted by: upyernoz at Jun 3, 2004 5:57:43 PM
To set the record straight about my existence, I decided to post a photo of myself over on my blog.
Take a look... :D
Posted by: Tild at Jun 4, 2004 2:58:31 PM
